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		<title>By: Homegrown</title>
		<link>http://blurbomat.com/2008/10/30/proud-to-vote-democratic-this-year/comment-page-4/#comment-30128</link>
		<dc:creator>Homegrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@faydean, I&#039;d like some sort of backup to the claims that you make that Obama would mandate social programs the way you say he would.  I thought about this a lot last night and did my best to research your claims but you seem to have the Journo. degree that I&#039;m only working on at this point so maybe you could point me to some un-biased analysis :).
The way I see it, the govt. has been helping people since the Great Depression and these programs have never been taken over nd ran the way you say they will.  America IS one of the most charitable nations on Earth, there we agree, but my argument to you there is that how can we help those who need it, if this job is left to us, if we cannot help ourselves?  As Obama said, &quot;How cn we pull ourselves up by our bootstraps if we don&#039;t even have boots?&quot;.  I&#039;d help those less fortunate than me (and there are PLENTY) but I just can&#039;t.
I don&#039;t think the govt. looks at the social programs as a role they have to take, but as something the greatest and wealthiest nation should do too help it&#039;s citizens.  Over the last 8 years the rich have piled up the cash while the poor and middle class have been left to fall to the bottom of the barrel and it&#039;s just not right...
And furthermore, I don&#039;t care to pay more for utilities if that means it lessens our dependence on resources that are harmful to the environment (and I mentioned previously my issues with utility bills!).  I don&#039;t mind the govt. telling me that I can&#039;t buy a Hummer.  To me, that&#039;s not the govt. running my life, that&#039;s the govt. cutting off the occasional ignorant wants of most Americans for the good of all mankind.  Frankly, mot of the time we as a country need someone to step in and tell us that we&#039;re being greedy and ridiculous.  That&#039;s not a Big Brother scenario, that&#039;s social responsibility.
I&#039;m curious if you wouldn&#039;t mind outlining what social programs you think need to go.  Again, this is not sarcasm and I don&#039;t ask so that I may ridicule your response and pick you apart, I&#039;m seriously curious.  Do you have a problem with the Dept. of Education, like McCain has in the past?  Do you support no funding for Head Start programs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@faydean, I&#8217;d like some sort of backup to the claims that you make that Obama would mandate social programs the way you say he would.  I thought about this a lot last night and did my best to research your claims but you seem to have the Journo. degree that I&#8217;m only working on at this point so maybe you could point me to some un-biased analysis <img src='http://blurbomat.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
The way I see it, the govt. has been helping people since the Great Depression and these programs have never been taken over nd ran the way you say they will.  America IS one of the most charitable nations on Earth, there we agree, but my argument to you there is that how can we help those who need it, if this job is left to us, if we cannot help ourselves?  As Obama said, &#8220;How cn we pull ourselves up by our bootstraps if we don&#8217;t even have boots?&#8221;.  I&#8217;d help those less fortunate than me (and there are PLENTY) but I just can&#8217;t.<br />
I don&#8217;t think the govt. looks at the social programs as a role they have to take, but as something the greatest and wealthiest nation should do too help it&#8217;s citizens.  Over the last 8 years the rich have piled up the cash while the poor and middle class have been left to fall to the bottom of the barrel and it&#8217;s just not right&#8230;<br />
And furthermore, I don&#8217;t care to pay more for utilities if that means it lessens our dependence on resources that are harmful to the environment (and I mentioned previously my issues with utility bills!).  I don&#8217;t mind the govt. telling me that I can&#8217;t buy a Hummer.  To me, that&#8217;s not the govt. running my life, that&#8217;s the govt. cutting off the occasional ignorant wants of most Americans for the good of all mankind.  Frankly, mot of the time we as a country need someone to step in and tell us that we&#8217;re being greedy and ridiculous.  That&#8217;s not a Big Brother scenario, that&#8217;s social responsibility.<br />
I&#8217;m curious if you wouldn&#8217;t mind outlining what social programs you think need to go.  Again, this is not sarcasm and I don&#8217;t ask so that I may ridicule your response and pick you apart, I&#8217;m seriously curious.  Do you have a problem with the Dept. of Education, like McCain has in the past?  Do you support no funding for Head Start programs?</p>
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		<title>By: faydean</title>
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		<dc:creator>faydean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mmc...

Please see my wording, I said &quot;generally&quot;. I suppose there are times it might, but philosophically speaking I think that kind of help should be limited. 

It&#039;s not about helping other people. It&#039;s about the government helping people...or mandating our system in such a way that makes us as individuals &quot;help&quot; others via programs, entitlements etc. I do not feel, nor will I ever (after having changed my mind from my former view as a Democrat) that it&#039;s the role of the government to help people or fix their lives. 

America is one of the most charitable countries on Earth. I feel, no I know, that most of us would help our fellow man without the need for the government to act as the middle man. And, no, I don&#039;t feel that the government can make us give individually either, just like it can&#039;t make us want to be environmentally concerned via making us pay more for our utilities. That is beyond big brother...that&#039;s getting into the realm of which I&#039;ve spoken before, totalitarianism etc. It&#039;s dangerous and needless. 

As a people, if left to our own devices, we are much more than capable of doing what&#039;s right. But human nature falls in there too. 

If you care to look, Thomas Sowell talked about his book, &quot;Conflict of Visions&quot; on NRO not too long ago. There are five parts. I personally think they are all really good, but of course watch what you want. The first part is pretty exemplary to my views.

http://tv.nationalreview.com/uncommonknowledge/post/?q=NWMzOWRlZmE0MGFiODRhZTA2ZTdmMmNlNjFlMmUyNjI=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mmc&#8230;</p>
<p>Please see my wording, I said &#8220;generally&#8221;. I suppose there are times it might, but philosophically speaking I think that kind of help should be limited. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about helping other people. It&#8217;s about the government helping people&#8230;or mandating our system in such a way that makes us as individuals &#8220;help&#8221; others via programs, entitlements etc. I do not feel, nor will I ever (after having changed my mind from my former view as a Democrat) that it&#8217;s the role of the government to help people or fix their lives. </p>
<p>America is one of the most charitable countries on Earth. I feel, no I know, that most of us would help our fellow man without the need for the government to act as the middle man. And, no, I don&#8217;t feel that the government can make us give individually either, just like it can&#8217;t make us want to be environmentally concerned via making us pay more for our utilities. That is beyond big brother&#8230;that&#8217;s getting into the realm of which I&#8217;ve spoken before, totalitarianism etc. It&#8217;s dangerous and needless. </p>
<p>As a people, if left to our own devices, we are much more than capable of doing what&#8217;s right. But human nature falls in there too. </p>
<p>If you care to look, Thomas Sowell talked about his book, &#8220;Conflict of Visions&#8221; on NRO not too long ago. There are five parts. I personally think they are all really good, but of course watch what you want. The first part is pretty exemplary to my views.</p>
<p><a href="http://tv.nationalreview.com/uncommonknowledge/post/?q=NWMzOWRlZmE0MGFiODRhZTA2ZTdmMmNlNjFlMmUyNjI" rel="nofollow">http://tv.nationalreview.com/uncommonknowledge/post/?q=NWMzOWRlZmE0MGFiODRhZTA2ZTdmMmNlNjFlMmUyNjI</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: mmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faydean:

&quot;I’ve said it time and again, government assistance of any kind does not generally boost someone up, but rather keep them stagnant or push them down.&quot;

For every example you have of assistance keeping someone down, I can give you an example of people able to get back on their feet.  Do you honestly feel that NO ONE benefits from government assistance?  If so, wouldn&#039;t you want to err on the side of helping other people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faydean:</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve said it time and again, government assistance of any kind does not generally boost someone up, but rather keep them stagnant or push them down.&#8221;</p>
<p>For every example you have of assistance keeping someone down, I can give you an example of people able to get back on their feet.  Do you honestly feel that NO ONE benefits from government assistance?  If so, wouldn&#8217;t you want to err on the side of helping other people?</p>
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		<title>By: Homegrown</title>
		<link>http://blurbomat.com/2008/10/30/proud-to-vote-democratic-this-year/comment-page-3/#comment-30117</link>
		<dc:creator>Homegrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@faydean, I&#039;m not sure how to respond.  The educated part of me wants to assume that you really believe an Obama presidency would take away our precious freedoms because you&#039;ve bought into the fear but on the same hand you certainly have a right to your opinion, just as I do.  Here&#039;s how I look at it: Under Bush, who I know you&#039;ve stated you dislike so no qualms there, we&#039;ve lost so many freedoms.  This, I think, for most Americans is now just a given.  
But I do not believe that any man would be allowed to go so far as to govern my life the way you say Obama will.  The American people would never allow it.  Some of these same arguments were made about Bill Clinton and they never came to fruition...
I wish that you would have given some sort of proof, if that were possible, of where you&#039;re getting these ideas about Obama but from what I can gather this is just your gut feeling about the man.  That is not AT ALL meant to be an insult, I get gut feelings but frankly, to quote Nick Hornsby speaking as Rob Gordon, &quot;my guts have shit for brains&quot; so I prefer to go with what my brain tells me, after so much research and soul searching.
I won&#039;t debate that there is so much wasted in our government, we agree there.  And as far as I can tell, Obama&#039;s platform concerning these things isn&#039;t to increase them, but to reform them.  Listen, I benefit from these govt. programs you feel do nothing, for the most part, to actually lift people out a bad or hard situation.  I&#039;m a single mom, I run my own (successful) handmade business, and I work on my degree when I can fit an extra 15 hours into my hectic schedule.  I work for a charity part-time so I can afford milk.  I&#039;m lucky to get $30 a month in food stamps...but that&#039;s it.  The govt. requires you make less than $239 a month to qualify for insurance so needless to say I&#039;m without it.  I sold my trusty beat up car last winter to cover a utility bill because the cost of heating our rental home with our natural gas exceeded my budget (and the cost of our rent, amazingly) so we are without a vehicle which makes going to work hard.  Tonight, we had peanut butter sandwiches for dinner for the second night because I&#039;m waiting on a paycheck so I can afford food.
Now, this isn&#039;t a sob story.  It&#039;s actually quite embarrassing for me to admit all that but I only do so to say that I am one of those people that Obama talks about, one of those that works hard and maybe with just a little help, I can do better.  With a tax cut I could buy a car and travel to indie craft shows with my goods, making it easier to pay my bills.  With health care I wouldn&#039;t be wracked with worry over what might happen to us if I break my arm and can&#039;t work (I sew, I need my arms!).
And if I look at the past, my family and I have always been better off when a Democrat is in office.  Plain and simple.  My parents, hard working good people, flourished under Clinton and not because of govt. handouts but because his policies benefited them more than Bush I&#039;s did.  In the past eight years my parents have cashed in my dad&#039;s 401k to pay the bills, my mom had to go back to work, they can&#039;t afford to send my little brother to college (like they could my sister and I), they can&#039;t afford the $1000 they promised to all of us if we kept good grades for a car, and they&#039;re filing bankruptcy.  And my parents and I are AVERAGE Americans.  Majority of the US demographic looks just like us.  An Obama administration would benefit us so much more than a McCain administration.
I know we disagree strongly and I know that a debate might be pointless because neither of us seem to be good at wavering.  BUT I just feel like human faces get lost in all this politicking and that&#039;s just sad.  
Again, I really don&#039;t know how to respond to you.  I&#039;ve done my research as you say you have and I just don&#039;t see what you&#039;re talking about.  Basically what you&#039;re laying out is a socialist regime change on the way and that&#039;s just...well, ridiculous.
I notice that you noted &quot;hopefully&quot; next to McCain&#039;s name and less government.  In the past 8 years that hasn&#039;t been the case, in fact the govt. is now HUGE, and McCain happens to vote with Bush over 90% of the time.  It&#039;s not a talking point (though it works as one...well), it&#039;s a fact.  
Regardless, this will all be over tomorrow.  And I hope that in 4-8 years you&#039;ll see that this man who is offering hope that most Americans forgot existed here isn&#039;t the monster out to steal your freedoms that you see him as.  I hope that you feel better off for this big step the nation will take.  I really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@faydean, I&#8217;m not sure how to respond.  The educated part of me wants to assume that you really believe an Obama presidency would take away our precious freedoms because you&#8217;ve bought into the fear but on the same hand you certainly have a right to your opinion, just as I do.  Here&#8217;s how I look at it: Under Bush, who I know you&#8217;ve stated you dislike so no qualms there, we&#8217;ve lost so many freedoms.  This, I think, for most Americans is now just a given.<br />
But I do not believe that any man would be allowed to go so far as to govern my life the way you say Obama will.  The American people would never allow it.  Some of these same arguments were made about Bill Clinton and they never came to fruition&#8230;<br />
I wish that you would have given some sort of proof, if that were possible, of where you&#8217;re getting these ideas about Obama but from what I can gather this is just your gut feeling about the man.  That is not AT ALL meant to be an insult, I get gut feelings but frankly, to quote Nick Hornsby speaking as Rob Gordon, &#8220;my guts have shit for brains&#8221; so I prefer to go with what my brain tells me, after so much research and soul searching.<br />
I won&#8217;t debate that there is so much wasted in our government, we agree there.  And as far as I can tell, Obama&#8217;s platform concerning these things isn&#8217;t to increase them, but to reform them.  Listen, I benefit from these govt. programs you feel do nothing, for the most part, to actually lift people out a bad or hard situation.  I&#8217;m a single mom, I run my own (successful) handmade business, and I work on my degree when I can fit an extra 15 hours into my hectic schedule.  I work for a charity part-time so I can afford milk.  I&#8217;m lucky to get $30 a month in food stamps&#8230;but that&#8217;s it.  The govt. requires you make less than $239 a month to qualify for insurance so needless to say I&#8217;m without it.  I sold my trusty beat up car last winter to cover a utility bill because the cost of heating our rental home with our natural gas exceeded my budget (and the cost of our rent, amazingly) so we are without a vehicle which makes going to work hard.  Tonight, we had peanut butter sandwiches for dinner for the second night because I&#8217;m waiting on a paycheck so I can afford food.<br />
Now, this isn&#8217;t a sob story.  It&#8217;s actually quite embarrassing for me to admit all that but I only do so to say that I am one of those people that Obama talks about, one of those that works hard and maybe with just a little help, I can do better.  With a tax cut I could buy a car and travel to indie craft shows with my goods, making it easier to pay my bills.  With health care I wouldn&#8217;t be wracked with worry over what might happen to us if I break my arm and can&#8217;t work (I sew, I need my arms!).<br />
And if I look at the past, my family and I have always been better off when a Democrat is in office.  Plain and simple.  My parents, hard working good people, flourished under Clinton and not because of govt. handouts but because his policies benefited them more than Bush I&#8217;s did.  In the past eight years my parents have cashed in my dad&#8217;s 401k to pay the bills, my mom had to go back to work, they can&#8217;t afford to send my little brother to college (like they could my sister and I), they can&#8217;t afford the $1000 they promised to all of us if we kept good grades for a car, and they&#8217;re filing bankruptcy.  And my parents and I are AVERAGE Americans.  Majority of the US demographic looks just like us.  An Obama administration would benefit us so much more than a McCain administration.<br />
I know we disagree strongly and I know that a debate might be pointless because neither of us seem to be good at wavering.  BUT I just feel like human faces get lost in all this politicking and that&#8217;s just sad.<br />
Again, I really don&#8217;t know how to respond to you.  I&#8217;ve done my research as you say you have and I just don&#8217;t see what you&#8217;re talking about.  Basically what you&#8217;re laying out is a socialist regime change on the way and that&#8217;s just&#8230;well, ridiculous.<br />
I notice that you noted &#8220;hopefully&#8221; next to McCain&#8217;s name and less government.  In the past 8 years that hasn&#8217;t been the case, in fact the govt. is now HUGE, and McCain happens to vote with Bush over 90% of the time.  It&#8217;s not a talking point (though it works as one&#8230;well), it&#8217;s a fact.<br />
Regardless, this will all be over tomorrow.  And I hope that in 4-8 years you&#8217;ll see that this man who is offering hope that most Americans forgot existed here isn&#8217;t the monster out to steal your freedoms that you see him as.  I hope that you feel better off for this big step the nation will take.  I really do.</p>
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		<title>By: faydean</title>
		<link>http://blurbomat.com/2008/10/30/proud-to-vote-democratic-this-year/comment-page-3/#comment-30115</link>
		<dc:creator>faydean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Homegrown

I will respond to your question about why I changed my political leanings, since obviously my vows to never post again are completely pointless, lol.

I was a Democrat for a long time, and this is not a slam against Democrats, just a statement about myself, because I was naive. I had alot of social issues that I felt strongly about and felt that the government had to enforce or protect them. I was young. I didn&#039;t have much money or a family, that was pretty much my only political leanings...all socially related. And for years thats what I supported vehemently. 

Then I became a reporter and had to cover local government issues and education. I quickly learned the practical applications of taxes, governmental regulations etc. I had to decipher them, translate them for readers and understand them. The more I learned, the more skeptical I became on the effectivness of government in general and very much specifically regarding certain issues I always championed. Back then, welfare was one of them.

I was a little man&#039;s biggest advocate, when I didn&#039;t know any, LOL. Then I had to cover the Housing Authority and other things and came to know the other side of what I had always just felt was one certain way. 

As I&#039;ve gotten older, I&#039;ve just come to realize that the least amount of reach the government has in my life and yours, the best. There is so much in terms of unbelievable waste, corruption and inefficiency in government. When you are sent to look for these things and you find them, it just makes you sick. I&#039;ve met very few politicians I felt like really had the voters best interest at heart, even locally. There are some, but overall most have their own ambitions at the heart of making them politicians. Once I learned that, I quickly made the leap to less government is better. I can manage my life just fine without the government intervening. And I do wholeheartedly believe that people who are classified as those that &quot;need&quot; governmental assistance would benefit more without it.

I&#039;ve said it time and again, government assistance of any kind does not generally boost someone up, but rather keep them stagnant or push them down.

Obama is the classic liberal in the sense that he sees the government as the sole answer for most social or political ill. If there&#039;s a problem he&#039;s got a program, mandate, regulation, tax, earmark...something...to fix it. And with each stroke of his pen on these pieces of legislation, the less true liberty each one of us as citizens have. I don&#039;t care how much you argue it or feel it not to be so, it is. When government mandates your life, you truly are not free. 

If I had my way, which obviously I won&#039;t, the government would have MUCH LESS power than it currently does. Whole sections of federal programs would be slashed if not gotten rid of entirely. I have grown to become a true constitutionalist and think the government&#039;s role really should be strictly interpreted accordingly. It won&#039;t be. But it should be. 

Here is the perfect example of why I don&#039;t like Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueCxeXZAUU

This just angers me beyond measure. How dare he assume to mandate my conscience and my own personal actions. Just because he thinks or believes a certain thing...that global warming will kill us all...he wants to MAKE me do the right thing by imposing a financial pressure?? I&#039;ve got his price signals right here...

Obama will not only act in this way regarding this one matter, he WILL do it on all matters. He knows best and will tell us what to do because of that...in his opinion.

In what area of your life, personally, would you allow such things? Do you want teachers telling you how to raise your kids? Perhaps you would want a grocery store clerk to not allow you to purchase a chocolate cake because it would be better for your health if you didn&#039;t eat it. Or maybe when you go to buy a car the salesman could refuse to sell you a car that had less MPG because you already pollute the environment too much. Is it ok if your neighbor weighs in on what color you paint your house or a friend decides whether or not you worked to much or not enough to go on vacation? You wouldn&#039;t allow other people to makes these decisions for you, but you want or expect the government to? These are just silly examples, but regarding real issues...your retirement, your healthcare, your child&#039;s education, the infrastructure of your city, how businesses are run...you want them to tell you what to do or mandate how they think it should be done?

Obama can be my president sure. But I live in a free democracy, supposedly, and unless I agree to have him mandate to me how I live my life to meet his ends, then I might as well move to China...because that IS what would be happening. It&#039;s not his job as President to do that. It&#039;s his job to protect us and act as our national spokeperson in the free world. I have a state legislature that I feel can govern mostly for me. I have representation, as someone pointed out to me the other day, in Congress to hopefully *yeah right* represent me. Obama, in my opinion, does not have that right. Nor does McCain. But at least with McCain he will protest my personal interests via veto power when the Dems try and pass every bit of liberal legislation they can because he shares my values.

Obama will inact so much more government spending and growth...well, I shudder to think. Carter was a mess, but this will be even beyond that. You can ignore me all you want and perhaps you support government taking care of everything. But if part of you doesn&#039;t, then mark my words, you are about to get a true taste of radical leftist government. You will either hate it or living a dream come true. 

It goes back to the basics:

Obama = BIG government
McCain = Less government (hopefully)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Homegrown</p>
<p>I will respond to your question about why I changed my political leanings, since obviously my vows to never post again are completely pointless, lol.</p>
<p>I was a Democrat for a long time, and this is not a slam against Democrats, just a statement about myself, because I was naive. I had alot of social issues that I felt strongly about and felt that the government had to enforce or protect them. I was young. I didn&#8217;t have much money or a family, that was pretty much my only political leanings&#8230;all socially related. And for years thats what I supported vehemently. </p>
<p>Then I became a reporter and had to cover local government issues and education. I quickly learned the practical applications of taxes, governmental regulations etc. I had to decipher them, translate them for readers and understand them. The more I learned, the more skeptical I became on the effectivness of government in general and very much specifically regarding certain issues I always championed. Back then, welfare was one of them.</p>
<p>I was a little man&#8217;s biggest advocate, when I didn&#8217;t know any, LOL. Then I had to cover the Housing Authority and other things and came to know the other side of what I had always just felt was one certain way. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve gotten older, I&#8217;ve just come to realize that the least amount of reach the government has in my life and yours, the best. There is so much in terms of unbelievable waste, corruption and inefficiency in government. When you are sent to look for these things and you find them, it just makes you sick. I&#8217;ve met very few politicians I felt like really had the voters best interest at heart, even locally. There are some, but overall most have their own ambitions at the heart of making them politicians. Once I learned that, I quickly made the leap to less government is better. I can manage my life just fine without the government intervening. And I do wholeheartedly believe that people who are classified as those that &#8220;need&#8221; governmental assistance would benefit more without it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it time and again, government assistance of any kind does not generally boost someone up, but rather keep them stagnant or push them down.</p>
<p>Obama is the classic liberal in the sense that he sees the government as the sole answer for most social or political ill. If there&#8217;s a problem he&#8217;s got a program, mandate, regulation, tax, earmark&#8230;something&#8230;to fix it. And with each stroke of his pen on these pieces of legislation, the less true liberty each one of us as citizens have. I don&#8217;t care how much you argue it or feel it not to be so, it is. When government mandates your life, you truly are not free. </p>
<p>If I had my way, which obviously I won&#8217;t, the government would have MUCH LESS power than it currently does. Whole sections of federal programs would be slashed if not gotten rid of entirely. I have grown to become a true constitutionalist and think the government&#8217;s role really should be strictly interpreted accordingly. It won&#8217;t be. But it should be. </p>
<p>Here is the perfect example of why I don&#8217;t like Obama:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueCxeXZAUU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueCxeXZAUU</a></p>
<p>This just angers me beyond measure. How dare he assume to mandate my conscience and my own personal actions. Just because he thinks or believes a certain thing&#8230;that global warming will kill us all&#8230;he wants to MAKE me do the right thing by imposing a financial pressure?? I&#8217;ve got his price signals right here&#8230;</p>
<p>Obama will not only act in this way regarding this one matter, he WILL do it on all matters. He knows best and will tell us what to do because of that&#8230;in his opinion.</p>
<p>In what area of your life, personally, would you allow such things? Do you want teachers telling you how to raise your kids? Perhaps you would want a grocery store clerk to not allow you to purchase a chocolate cake because it would be better for your health if you didn&#8217;t eat it. Or maybe when you go to buy a car the salesman could refuse to sell you a car that had less MPG because you already pollute the environment too much. Is it ok if your neighbor weighs in on what color you paint your house or a friend decides whether or not you worked to much or not enough to go on vacation? You wouldn&#8217;t allow other people to makes these decisions for you, but you want or expect the government to? These are just silly examples, but regarding real issues&#8230;your retirement, your healthcare, your child&#8217;s education, the infrastructure of your city, how businesses are run&#8230;you want them to tell you what to do or mandate how they think it should be done?</p>
<p>Obama can be my president sure. But I live in a free democracy, supposedly, and unless I agree to have him mandate to me how I live my life to meet his ends, then I might as well move to China&#8230;because that IS what would be happening. It&#8217;s not his job as President to do that. It&#8217;s his job to protect us and act as our national spokeperson in the free world. I have a state legislature that I feel can govern mostly for me. I have representation, as someone pointed out to me the other day, in Congress to hopefully *yeah right* represent me. Obama, in my opinion, does not have that right. Nor does McCain. But at least with McCain he will protest my personal interests via veto power when the Dems try and pass every bit of liberal legislation they can because he shares my values.</p>
<p>Obama will inact so much more government spending and growth&#8230;well, I shudder to think. Carter was a mess, but this will be even beyond that. You can ignore me all you want and perhaps you support government taking care of everything. But if part of you doesn&#8217;t, then mark my words, you are about to get a true taste of radical leftist government. You will either hate it or living a dream come true. </p>
<p>It goes back to the basics:</p>
<p>Obama = BIG government<br />
McCain = Less government (hopefully)</p>
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		<title>By: coffeejitters</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffeejitters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had already made up my mind to vote for Obama when the debates rolled around - but watching the difference in how they handled conflict in the debate really sealed it for me.

McCain resorted to snide remarks and even pouting, where Obama stayed on point, kept his spine right where it belonged and owned the room. 

There is no question which one I want representing me when the president meets with leaders of other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had already made up my mind to vote for Obama when the debates rolled around &#8211; but watching the difference in how they handled conflict in the debate really sealed it for me.</p>
<p>McCain resorted to snide remarks and even pouting, where Obama stayed on point, kept his spine right where it belonged and owned the room. </p>
<p>There is no question which one I want representing me when the president meets with leaders of other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my gosh, faydean, i would&#039;ve written earlier but i just noticed your last comment. because of it&#039;s length, i mistook it for an earlier one. i thought you weren&#039;t going to comment on here anymore. anyway, between laundry and deciding on how best to make dinner with left over pot roast, here&#039;s my response off the top of my head:
1. i read all the experiences you&#039;ve had and all i hear is blah, blah, blah, martyr, martyr, martyr, blah, blah. hundreds of thousands of people were with you during that time (seems i&#039;m a bit younger than you) so good for you. i stand by what i said before.
2. do i know who steven bilko is? um, that&#039;s rich. 
3. i don&#039;t have a degree in psychology or sociology. i have several degrees in them. ok, just a joke. my degrees are not related to what you assumed.
4. i should hope your husband treats patients regardless of race and income level, he would lose his license if he didn&#039;t. 
5. um . . . OF COURSE there are people on both sides of the aisle of differing race, class, ethnicity, and gender. I don&#039;t need a website to prove that to me. This is America. Helllloooo!!!
6. Somewhere in your last post you made yet another assumption that i&#039;d been liberal all my life. good golly, you may fall of your chair if you knew the truth.
7. Somewhere you said i had never lived in an area with &quot;so many blacks&quot;. another wrong assumption.
8. wrong assumption #50: i&#039;m voting for obama b/c he&#039;s black? 
9. me being attention seeking b/c i&#039;ve commented? um . . . i&#039;ve been following this blog for a long while and this is the first post i have felt compelled to comment on. i think we&#039;re alike in some way, faydean, but definitely not in the compulsive, attention seeking area.
10. i &quot;claimed&quot; to have read those books because I did read those books. several times. i&#039;m surprised you haven&#039;t read the one by cornell west since he wrote it forever ago. you should. it&#039;s a fairly easy read and i think you&#039;ll love it. 

finally, in seeking some common ground here,  i don&#039;t know but perhaps we&#039;re both housewives, spending most of our time and energy in creating happy homes for ourselves and our family. plus, just from what i read, i think we&#039;re both madly in love with our husbands. which is a blessing you must admit. i like common ground being our level of investment in family. it&#039;s how Americans can live in disagreement with each other without civil war busting out during every election.

since you&#039;ve moved from your &quot;never going to comment on this blog again&quot; to your never going to make another POLITICAL comment again (spoken like a true politician), then i&#039;m sure i&#039;ll be seeing you on here. (again). 

tomorrow is election day and i&#039;m watching polls, so if you see fox news interview a poll watcher, and that poll watcher winks at the camera, know that it was a shout out from me to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my gosh, faydean, i would&#8217;ve written earlier but i just noticed your last comment. because of it&#8217;s length, i mistook it for an earlier one. i thought you weren&#8217;t going to comment on here anymore. anyway, between laundry and deciding on how best to make dinner with left over pot roast, here&#8217;s my response off the top of my head:<br />
1. i read all the experiences you&#8217;ve had and all i hear is blah, blah, blah, martyr, martyr, martyr, blah, blah. hundreds of thousands of people were with you during that time (seems i&#8217;m a bit younger than you) so good for you. i stand by what i said before.<br />
2. do i know who steven bilko is? um, that&#8217;s rich.<br />
3. i don&#8217;t have a degree in psychology or sociology. i have several degrees in them. ok, just a joke. my degrees are not related to what you assumed.<br />
4. i should hope your husband treats patients regardless of race and income level, he would lose his license if he didn&#8217;t.<br />
5. um . . . OF COURSE there are people on both sides of the aisle of differing race, class, ethnicity, and gender. I don&#8217;t need a website to prove that to me. This is America. Helllloooo!!!<br />
6. Somewhere in your last post you made yet another assumption that i&#8217;d been liberal all my life. good golly, you may fall of your chair if you knew the truth.<br />
7. Somewhere you said i had never lived in an area with &#8220;so many blacks&#8221;. another wrong assumption.<br />
8. wrong assumption #50: i&#8217;m voting for obama b/c he&#8217;s black?<br />
9. me being attention seeking b/c i&#8217;ve commented? um . . . i&#8217;ve been following this blog for a long while and this is the first post i have felt compelled to comment on. i think we&#8217;re alike in some way, faydean, but definitely not in the compulsive, attention seeking area.<br />
10. i &#8220;claimed&#8221; to have read those books because I did read those books. several times. i&#8217;m surprised you haven&#8217;t read the one by cornell west since he wrote it forever ago. you should. it&#8217;s a fairly easy read and i think you&#8217;ll love it. </p>
<p>finally, in seeking some common ground here,  i don&#8217;t know but perhaps we&#8217;re both housewives, spending most of our time and energy in creating happy homes for ourselves and our family. plus, just from what i read, i think we&#8217;re both madly in love with our husbands. which is a blessing you must admit. i like common ground being our level of investment in family. it&#8217;s how Americans can live in disagreement with each other without civil war busting out during every election.</p>
<p>since you&#8217;ve moved from your &#8220;never going to comment on this blog again&#8221; to your never going to make another POLITICAL comment again (spoken like a true politician), then i&#8217;m sure i&#8217;ll be seeing you on here. (again). </p>
<p>tomorrow is election day and i&#8217;m watching polls, so if you see fox news interview a poll watcher, and that poll watcher winks at the camera, know that it was a shout out from me to you.</p>
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		<title>By: southerngirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>southerngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zchamu,

My husband and I are always amazed when we see people clearly voting against their own self interest. Some of the McCain/Palin signs in our town are in front of run-down houses where people are clearly hurting economically-- people who would benefit the most from Obama&#039;s tax cuts. Obviously, Bush&#039;s trickle-down economics never made it down this far. But still they support more of the same through McCain. It amazes us.

As I said before (and was taken out of context by one commenter), I think these people are  afraid. Afraid of something they don&#039;t understand and have never experienced-- a black man in a position of power.  And they have been frightened even more by the scare tactics of the Republican party. I saw the most repulsive ad on television last night.  It had a picture of an Obama poster with the word HATE in place of the word HOPE and then it lambasted Obama over his connection to Rev. Wright. The same Rev. Wright McCain said he would never bring up in his campaign. So much for his word.

The Republican machine realizes they are going to lose this election and lose it so big they can&#039;t steal it. So they are resorting to the most horrible thing in their playbook at the end--stir up fear so much that there will be a lingering hostility in this country long after the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zchamu,</p>
<p>My husband and I are always amazed when we see people clearly voting against their own self interest. Some of the McCain/Palin signs in our town are in front of run-down houses where people are clearly hurting economically&#8211; people who would benefit the most from Obama&#8217;s tax cuts. Obviously, Bush&#8217;s trickle-down economics never made it down this far. But still they support more of the same through McCain. It amazes us.</p>
<p>As I said before (and was taken out of context by one commenter), I think these people are  afraid. Afraid of something they don&#8217;t understand and have never experienced&#8211; a black man in a position of power.  And they have been frightened even more by the scare tactics of the Republican party. I saw the most repulsive ad on television last night.  It had a picture of an Obama poster with the word HATE in place of the word HOPE and then it lambasted Obama over his connection to Rev. Wright. The same Rev. Wright McCain said he would never bring up in his campaign. So much for his word.</p>
<p>The Republican machine realizes they are going to lose this election and lose it so big they can&#8217;t steal it. So they are resorting to the most horrible thing in their playbook at the end&#8211;stir up fear so much that there will be a lingering hostility in this country long after the election.</p>
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		<title>By: zchamu</title>
		<link>http://blurbomat.com/2008/10/30/proud-to-vote-democratic-this-year/comment-page-3/#comment-30100</link>
		<dc:creator>zchamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find people like Faydean terribly interesting. They aren&#039;t voting on policy or platform, who&#039;s giving a tax break or who&#039;s improving health care, on which platform their lives will be improved under; they&#039;re voting on a &quot;gut feeling&quot;. I guess it&#039;s a sign of the times.  People so mistrust politicians now that they don&#039;t believe anything they state in their platform, so they go with some kind of underlying vibe. The unfortunate part is that for someone like Obama, the underlying vibe will very often be negative due to racism. I have yet to hear someone say that they are voting for McCain because his economic policy will be better for them (unless they are parroting Palin&#039;s socialism claim, of course, which is utterly meaningless since if these people did one whit of research they&#039;d realize that the claim is garbage). More so I hear people voting against Obama because they &quot;just don&#039;t like him&quot;.  He&#039;s too slick, he speaks too well (I guess 8 years under a president with a learning disability that prevents him from properly being able to read teleprompters has lowered our expectations). He invokes &quot;hope&quot; too easily (I guess Americans are used to being hopeless.) On and on it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find people like Faydean terribly interesting. They aren&#8217;t voting on policy or platform, who&#8217;s giving a tax break or who&#8217;s improving health care, on which platform their lives will be improved under; they&#8217;re voting on a &#8220;gut feeling&#8221;. I guess it&#8217;s a sign of the times.  People so mistrust politicians now that they don&#8217;t believe anything they state in their platform, so they go with some kind of underlying vibe. The unfortunate part is that for someone like Obama, the underlying vibe will very often be negative due to racism. I have yet to hear someone say that they are voting for McCain because his economic policy will be better for them (unless they are parroting Palin&#8217;s socialism claim, of course, which is utterly meaningless since if these people did one whit of research they&#8217;d realize that the claim is garbage). More so I hear people voting against Obama because they &#8220;just don&#8217;t like him&#8221;.  He&#8217;s too slick, he speaks too well (I guess 8 years under a president with a learning disability that prevents him from properly being able to read teleprompters has lowered our expectations). He invokes &#8220;hope&#8221; too easily (I guess Americans are used to being hopeless.) On and on it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Homegrown</title>
		<link>http://blurbomat.com/2008/10/30/proud-to-vote-democratic-this-year/comment-page-3/#comment-30099</link>
		<dc:creator>Homegrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@faydean, Again, I hear nothing of why you support McCain.
Bartle Bull was an RFK campaign manager and good for him voicing his opinion.  But who better knows the Kennedy&#039;s and their their legacy than...well, THE Kennedy&#039;s?  Carolyn Kennedy works directly for Obama in his campaign, Ted, of course, has endorsed Obama, and even Maria Shriver is an Obama supporter.  Would they not be able to speak as to who is more in tune with the Kennedy legacy than a man who was simply a campaign manager?  This isn&#039;t just about a Kennedy legacy either -- conservatives, not just moderate Republicans, see through the argument that Obama is all hope and no substance.  CC Goldwater, Colin Powell, Ken Duberstein (REAGAN&#039;S Chief of Staff!), Ken Adelman (served under Rumsfeld twice and under Reagan), Wick Allison (former editor of the National Review), Scott McClellan, Christopher Buckley (!), Smerconish (conservative radio talk show host), and the Chicago Tribune (which has not endorsed a Democrat since 1912) all endorse Obama.  Is it that all these staunch conservatives are naively jumping ship and supporting a candidate they would typically be against just because he&#039;s a great speaker?  I certainly don&#039;t think so.
Also, in that article I don&#039;t see any argument that Bull is making against supporting Obama.  Really.  He says that Obama is not a Kennedy, that Obama &quot;wants to change the country&quot;, and that Obama is basically a Marxist.  I don&#039;t see how this is an anti-Obama article, other than to repeat the usual Republican talking points.  Granted, he might have filled in his arguments during that rally but that wasn&#039;t in the article so I don&#039;t know.
Look, I don&#039;t think McCain is a bad man.  To the contrary in fact, I owe him my thanks for fighting for this country and his service to it since.  We all do.  But a man who so readily loses his convictions to garner right-wing support because he knows that his moderate side won&#039;t win him as such isn&#039;t the man I want governing this country right now.
Again, @faydean, I&#039;m really curious why a lifelong liberal Democrat wouldn&#039;t vote for Obama.  That&#039;s not sarcasm at all, I REALLY am curious.  And maybe some of us would better understand your point of view, those of us that are open to it at least, if you would spell out what it is that frightens you about Obama.  Obviously, I don&#039;t want to hear that he&#039;s a socialist, Marxist, or that he&#039;ll turn this country into something that resembles Hitler&#039;s Germany, because those aren&#039;t arguments but instead just flimsy fear mongering.  But I would like to hear why it is you&#039;ve changed your mind about the party, just the way that so many conservatives/Republicans have changed their minds about theirs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@faydean, Again, I hear nothing of why you support McCain.<br />
Bartle Bull was an RFK campaign manager and good for him voicing his opinion.  But who better knows the Kennedy&#8217;s and their their legacy than&#8230;well, THE Kennedy&#8217;s?  Carolyn Kennedy works directly for Obama in his campaign, Ted, of course, has endorsed Obama, and even Maria Shriver is an Obama supporter.  Would they not be able to speak as to who is more in tune with the Kennedy legacy than a man who was simply a campaign manager?  This isn&#8217;t just about a Kennedy legacy either &#8212; conservatives, not just moderate Republicans, see through the argument that Obama is all hope and no substance.  CC Goldwater, Colin Powell, Ken Duberstein (REAGAN&#8217;S Chief of Staff!), Ken Adelman (served under Rumsfeld twice and under Reagan), Wick Allison (former editor of the National Review), Scott McClellan, Christopher Buckley (!), Smerconish (conservative radio talk show host), and the Chicago Tribune (which has not endorsed a Democrat since 1912) all endorse Obama.  Is it that all these staunch conservatives are naively jumping ship and supporting a candidate they would typically be against just because he&#8217;s a great speaker?  I certainly don&#8217;t think so.<br />
Also, in that article I don&#8217;t see any argument that Bull is making against supporting Obama.  Really.  He says that Obama is not a Kennedy, that Obama &#8220;wants to change the country&#8221;, and that Obama is basically a Marxist.  I don&#8217;t see how this is an anti-Obama article, other than to repeat the usual Republican talking points.  Granted, he might have filled in his arguments during that rally but that wasn&#8217;t in the article so I don&#8217;t know.<br />
Look, I don&#8217;t think McCain is a bad man.  To the contrary in fact, I owe him my thanks for fighting for this country and his service to it since.  We all do.  But a man who so readily loses his convictions to garner right-wing support because he knows that his moderate side won&#8217;t win him as such isn&#8217;t the man I want governing this country right now.<br />
Again, @faydean, I&#8217;m really curious why a lifelong liberal Democrat wouldn&#8217;t vote for Obama.  That&#8217;s not sarcasm at all, I REALLY am curious.  And maybe some of us would better understand your point of view, those of us that are open to it at least, if you would spell out what it is that frightens you about Obama.  Obviously, I don&#8217;t want to hear that he&#8217;s a socialist, Marxist, or that he&#8217;ll turn this country into something that resembles Hitler&#8217;s Germany, because those aren&#8217;t arguments but instead just flimsy fear mongering.  But I would like to hear why it is you&#8217;ve changed your mind about the party, just the way that so many conservatives/Republicans have changed their minds about theirs&#8230;</p>
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