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		<title>By: DaddyScratches</title>
		<link>http://blurbomat.com/2009/02/11/lightroom-tutorial-color-to-grayscale/comment-page-1/#comment-31023</link>
		<dc:creator>DaddyScratches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point! Done.

I humbly offer up my own little &lt;a href=&#039;http://daddyscratches.com/2009/02/11/beauty-and-the-beast/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;color-to-grayscale tutorial for Photoshop users&lt;/a&gt;. Sadly, it&#039;s all still images and text rather than a cool audio/video presentation, but I think it does the job. Hopefully, someone else will find it worthwhile. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point! Done.</p>
<p>I humbly offer up my own little <a href='http://daddyscratches.com/2009/02/11/beauty-and-the-beast/' rel="nofollow">color-to-grayscale tutorial for Photoshop users</a>. Sadly, it’s all still images and text rather than a cool audio/video presentation, but I think it does the job. Hopefully, someone else will find it worthwhile. <img src='http://blurbomat.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: faydean</title>
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		<dc:creator>faydean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jon,

Can I request a couple of things in way of advice/tutorials?

If you ever use actions, how do you set them up in Lightroom or can you?

Also, printing...advice on getting true tonal colors. I&#039;m having a hard time outputting an image in colors I see on the monitor. I know various machines print in varying degrees of underlying tones (Kodak was always too red for me, Fuji...too green). It&#039;s especially difficult with black and white since they are printing digitally from color files most of the time I believe. 

I can not for the life of me remember alot of my old graphics stuff. But when we sent things for printing it seemed as if a photo file could be printed in true black and white, ie meaning the color information taken out completely in the file instead of just having it converted from CMYK (for magazine printing). 

Am I imagining that as being the case? Is there something you can do to the RGB/CMYK that will leave only the black and white? 

Without true photo labs with dark room processing any longer, is there a particular digital lab you like that you send images to or do you guys print everything yourselves at home? I find I print out stuff less and less after numerous disappointments with prints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jon,</p>
<p>Can I request a couple of things in way of advice/tutorials?</p>
<p>If you ever use actions, how do you set them up in Lightroom or can you?</p>
<p>Also, printing…advice on getting true tonal colors. I’m having a hard time outputting an image in colors I see on the monitor. I know various machines print in varying degrees of underlying tones (Kodak was always too red for me, Fuji…too green). It’s especially difficult with black and white since they are printing digitally from color files most of the time I believe. </p>
<p>I can not for the life of me remember alot of my old graphics stuff. But when we sent things for printing it seemed as if a photo file could be printed in true black and white, ie meaning the color information taken out completely in the file instead of just having it converted from CMYK (for magazine printing). </p>
<p>Am I imagining that as being the case? Is there something you can do to the RGB/CMYK that will leave only the black and white? </p>
<p>Without true photo labs with dark room processing any longer, is there a particular digital lab you like that you send images to or do you guys print everything yourselves at home? I find I print out stuff less and less after numerous disappointments with prints.</p>
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		<title>By: faydean</title>
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		<dc:creator>faydean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be interested. I tend to like very sharp black and white prints...which is hard to accomplish in Photoshop at time, especially without a great calibrated monitor like I once had with a Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d be interested. I tend to like very sharp black and white prints…which is hard to accomplish in Photoshop at time, especially without a great calibrated monitor like I once had with a Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: nbrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>nbrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: hum

Do you have your machines running on UPS (uninterruptable power power supply)?

If I&#039;m not mistaken the UPS also does power conditioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: hum</p>
<p>Do you have your machines running on UPS (uninterruptable power power supply)?</p>
<p>If I’m not mistaken the UPS also does power conditioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tutorials Jon!! Love Love LOVE Lightroom. Lately it seems like all I ever use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tutorials Jon!! Love Love LOVE Lightroom. Lately it seems like all I ever use.</p>
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		<title>By: blurb</title>
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		<dc:creator>blurb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome! I tried to do this one to provide a range of tutorials. I&#039;m hoping to do a lot more over the coming weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re welcome! I tried to do this one to provide a range of tutorials. I’m hoping to do a lot more over the coming weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: weezgrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>weezgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay!  Thank you for continuing the tutorial work.  Us n00bs really appreciate it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay!  Thank you for continuing the tutorial work.  Us n00bs really appreciate it!</p>
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		<title>By: blurb</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not post it as a blog post on your site and link to it from here??

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not post it as a blog post on your site and link to it from here??</p>
<p> <img src='http://blurbomat.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: heathercoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>heathercoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tutorial, for a novice like me it really helped.  I&#039;m excited to try it on some of my photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tutorial, for a novice like me it really helped.  I’m excited to try it on some of my photos.</p>
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		<title>By: DaddyScratches</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaddyScratches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the demo. I&#039;m gonna have to give Lightroom a spin one of these days.

And speaking of &quot;Color to Grayscale&quot; (in case it&#039;s of interest to Photoshop users): I was once taught a method for converting color to grayscale that, according to the instructor, produced an end result more comparable to actual black-and-white film output than merely changing the image mode from &quot;RGB&quot; (or &quot;CMYK&quot; or &quot;LAB&quot;) to &quot;Grayscale.&quot; It&#039;s a pretty subtle difference, but I think he was right. It involves using &quot;Image -&gt; Calculations.&quot; I was going to post the instructions here, with links to an example image, but it felt like I might be hijacking this post. With your permission, Jon, I&#039;ll post it here (about 300 words). If not, and anyone is interested, you can email me at daddy [at] daddyscratches [dot] com.

(P.S.: I&#039;m who made the comment about the green channel (back in your RAW vs. JPG showdown), but my remark pertained only to using the green channel for sharpening, and not for any other adjustements.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the demo. I’m gonna have to give Lightroom a spin one of these days.</p>
<p>And speaking of “Color to Grayscale” (in case it’s of interest to Photoshop users): I was once taught a method for converting color to grayscale that, according to the instructor, produced an end result more comparable to actual black-and-white film output than merely changing the image mode from “RGB” (or “CMYK” or “LAB”) to “Grayscale.” It’s a pretty subtle difference, but I think he was right. It involves using “Image -&gt; Calculations.” I was going to post the instructions here, with links to an example image, but it felt like I might be hijacking this post. With your permission, Jon, I’ll post it here (about 300 words). If not, and anyone is interested, you can email me at daddy [at] daddyscratches [dot] com.</p>
<p>(P.S.: I’m who made the comment about the green channel (back in your RAW vs. JPG showdown), but my remark pertained only to using the green channel for sharpening, and not for any other adjustements.)</p>
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