I’ve Tried to Say the Same Thing

This column by Bob Herbert for the New York Times says everything I’ve been trying to get across about the evils of fundamentalism, demagoguery and conservative denial:

It’s Time to Get Help

The wackiness is increasing, not diminishing, and it has a great potential for destruction. There is a real need for people who know better to speak out in a concerted effort to curb the appeal of the apostles of the absurd.

But there is another type of disturbing behavior, coming from our political leaders and the public at large, that is also symptomatic of a society at loose ends. We seem unable to face up to many of the hard truths confronting the U.S. as we approach the end of the first decade of the 21st century.

The Obama administration’s biggest domestic priority is health care reform. But the biggest issue confronting ordinary Americans right now — the biggest by far — is the devastatingly weak employment environment. Politicians talk about it, but aggressive job-creation efforts are not part of the policy mix.

And

We’ve also been unable or unwilling to face the hard truths about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the terrible toll they are taking on our young fighting men and women. Most of us don’t want to know. Moreover, we’ve put the costs of these wars on a credit card, without so much as a second thought about what that does to our long-term budget deficits or how it undermines much-needed initiatives here at home.

Definitely a must-read.

  • nobody

    You seem interested in talking about the stupidity of conservatives more than anything else.

    People disagree with you, blurb. Some of them are crazy. Guess what, you’ll never convince the crazy ones of anything, but they’ll never convince anyone else either, so they’re a wash. Your side has them too. The only question about such people that matters is how much not-crazy people listen to them.

    Some of the dissenters are not-crazy. Guess what, we’re the ones that the independents and the confused and thoughtful actually listen to. When you ignore us, that audience notices, and it starts to wonder if you have any response to the not-crazy.

    Now, I’m sure you find the crazies frustrating. God knows I wonder how posters at the Daily Kos manage to tie their shoes, I find them so stupid. You know something? They don’t matter much, and I can’t do much about them. So I ignore them.

    But if you think the Administration’s problems is crazy people, you aren’t being honest with yourself.

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      It’s more a commentary about the level of discourse than it is saying “I hate crazy people.”

      And it’s really not about agreement or disagreement with me. It’s the level of discourse. And I know I should tone it down, but I’m frustrated. Smart people need to stand up and be heard. It’s time.

      Yes, I know there are crazy liberals. But those voices do not have the mindshare that the crazies on the conservative side has. Olbermann is no Limbaugh, O’ Reilly, Hannity or Beck. Maddow is definitely not Coulter. There is no liberal analogue to those very loud, very influential (and very stupid, I think) voices.

      I lived in San Francisco for three years. I found the self-righteousness of liberals from Berkeley just as maddening as I do the self-righteousness of conservatives in my state. It’s the same thing, just a different brand.

      I think the difference between the posters at Daily Kos and a leading “news” network giving a voice to the crazies is very very very different. And that difference needs to be recognized. Intelligent conservatives need to reclaim the discourse.

      • nobody

        Your guy won the Presidency, you control the House, you control the Senate. You. Won. Everything.

        I ignore Limbaugh and Olberman et al, so I’m can’t match Left Wing Nut to Right Wing Nut. The sheer tonnage of crazies is irrelevant. In spite of all these crazies, your guys won _everything_. And not with the support of right-wing crazies. The Democrats are losing the moderates, the conservative Democrats, the independents — people won’t don’t give a flying f*** about Rush.

        So if the Democrats cannot cannot make a case, the problem is not right-wing crazies.

        • http://blurbomat.com blurb

          You are not a typical conservative. And that’s the problem :-) There needs to be more people like you.

          • nobody

            Thank you, but I don’t think it’s true. And even if true, it doesn’t speak to the real problem with the center moderates.

  • http://headacheslayer.blogspot.com HeadacheSlayer

    I think if the government was JUST us, maybe something would move forward. But last I checked it IS still a democracy and things can’t move without everyone getting along.

    I still support Obama. Voted for him. Worked as avolunteer for his campaign. And I have “insanity fatigue” from all the nuttiness going on.

    I think some, like me, are ready to give up because we just can’t get our point across louder than the crazies (and where I am, sadly, there are PLENTY). My daughter went to high school today expecting to see the President’s speech, even wore her Tshirt. You have to understand, my daughter goes to an International Baccalaureate school affiliated with the local high school, and while it’s not “liberal” it does encourage diversity, challenging the status quo, and education. Seems like a no brainer? The whole school BANNED the speech. I was livid. Her teachers were baffled.

    Is this reasonable behaviour? Is this sane for people to get so incredibly crazy over a speech that tells kids to work hard? I don’t think so.

    And yes, had it been Bush I would have “let” her see it.

    I really can’t wrap my brain around the kerfluffle.

  • http://emailtoid.net/i/b539da09/81624391/ emailtoid​.net/​i​/​b​5​3​9da09/…

    I have a random question and for whatever reason I’m relying on you to answer it since I know you’ve done your research. I think planning on watching the entirety of the President’s speech tonight (despite not having DVR and forcing myself to miss the first episode of So You Think You Can Dance, oh the humanity) has got me thinking about how I hope he will answer a lot of my questions during it. But in case he doesn’t, here it is: I work for a medium-sized company where I’m signed up for a health insurance plan that’s mediocre at best. Good enough for a 26 year old single person who only visits the doctor twice a year at most and it’s comforting to have it there in case there’s ever an emergency. Of course I know it could be better. The thing is that I don’t receive dental coverage at all, the company doesn’t even offer it. Is dental coverage something that President Obama is including in this healthcare reform? I feel like dental should be just as important as everything else and the majority of my friends don’t have it from their companies either. I haven’t been to the dentist in about 6 or 7 years, and I feel terrible about it but I can’t afford it and refuse to let my parents pay for such a large bill. So I’m forced to slowly save up for whatever bills I can expect. It would be a relief if some form of dental coverage for everyone who needs it comes out of this reform, I know I’m being optimistic but it’s good to dream, right?

  • http://homegrownandthebug.wordpress.com Homegrown

    The way I understand it, dental and vision will be included. Information on that aspect of the plan is vague considering most of the hoopla is just about “regular” healthcare. From what I’ve read the dental industry (more specifically, the Association of Dental Plans, which covers 90% of those with dental) is vying for the ability to provide children’s benefits through the National Health Exchange. I can’t remember reading too much about adult coverage but I can say with quite a bit of certainty it will be included…

    Also, here’s a question. The director of the Family Services division in my state (who I know because she sits on the board of the charity I work for) mentioned the other day that the easiest way to get this whole healthcare business taken care of would be to simply raise the poverty level. I know right now that I feel like I live in poverty. We by no means live on the side of a highway but I can *barely* cover the general bills — shelter, food, clothing — but things like daycare and gas are often hard to cover. I don’t have a savings account and I certainly cannot afford insurance. As it stands now I can make no more than a little over $400 a month to qualify for Medicaid. That’s just ludicrous to me and this is considered the poverty level. A family of two living on $400 a month can cover housing, utilities, food, clothing…AND insurance?! Not a chance.
    So why couldn’t the government put some work into reforming Medicaid and raising the poverty level so more Americans could be covered? There would still absolutely be a need for reform when it comes to the insurance agencies and how they do business but would this not be an easier solution? In the short term and in this economy it seems like this would go a long way in covering so many more Americans while we work on long-term healthcare reform…