Upset, Sad, Shocked and Only a Little Surprised

Regular readers know that I’m no fan of Sarah Palin or the Tea Party. My disdain stems from the Bush-era holdover attacks on reason, intelligence, ration, sanity and language.

Yesterday, there was an assassination attempt on U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords. A judge was assassinated. I use the term assassinate because that’s what it is. Some folks on Twitter last night questioned the use of the word “assassination”. Even before knowing that the FBI had evidence as such, the fact that a judge and Congressperson were shot at? That’s an assassination attempt.

This attack by a likely schizophrenic person with a legally obtained semi-automatic handgun was made easier because of Arizona’s new, relaxed handgun law.

Like everybody else, I’m trying to make sense of this horrible tragedy. My heart aches for the families and loved ones of the victims of this atrocity. I’ve been doing a lot of reading. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking. And, foolishly, I’ve been doing a lot of cathartic yapping on Twitter.

I’m angry about this for a few reasons. The shooter needed mental health help. Did he get it? Ever? Will he? How much stigmatization will occur over the coming days and weeks as this event is discussed? One of the best things I read about the link, or lack of link, between mental illness and violence was this Slate piece by Vaughan Bell entitled “Crazy Talk“:

“A 2009 analysis of nearly 20,000 individuals concluded that increased risk of violence was associated with drug and alcohol problems, regardless of whether the person had schizophrenia. Two similar analyses on bipolar patients showed, along similar lines, that the risk of violent crime is fractionally increased by the illness, while it goes up substantially among those who are dependent on intoxicating substances. In other words, it’s likely that some of the people in your local bar are at greater risk of committing murder than your average person with mental illness.”

and

“The fact that mental illness is so often used to explain violent acts despite the evidence to the contrary almost certainly flows from how such cases are handled in the media.”

I like this George Packer piece from the New Yorker (thanks to a lot of people on Twitter for sharing this):

This relentlessly hostile rhetoric has become standard issue on the right. (On the left it appears in anonymous comment threads, not congressional speeches and national T.V. programs.) And it has gone almost entirely uncriticized by Republican leaders. Partisan media encourages it, while the mainstream media finds it titillating and airs it, often without comment, so that the gradual effect is to desensitize even people to whom the rhetoric is repellent. We’ve all grown so used to it over the past couple of years that it took the shock of an assassination attempt to show us the ugliness to which our politics has sunk.

Over the last 20 years, there has been a marked increase in violent language and imagery used against people and parties in power. Beginning with the election of Bill Clinton, his opposers launched horrifying attacks. The GOP, despite being the majority party in Congress from 1994 to 2006, used their power to keep Ken Starr investigating nearly every step of President Clinton. It didn’t end well for Clinton or for Newt Gingrich. President Clinton was impeached by the House and Gingrich lost his Speaker position. The coordinated systemic attack from the conservatives during that period was something to behold. The AM dial, long dominated by conservative hosts (and who I listened to during 1992-3) made it a daily effort to discredit and delegitimize President Clinton.

When George W. Bush was declared the winner of the 2000 election, the independent prosecutor bill that allowed Congress to invoke an independent prosecutor was allowed to lapse and not be renewed. President Bush’s policy decisions were decried by liberals, as would be expected. There was no “liberal” media outcry to the second war in Iraq, the suspension of Habeas Corpus or the myriad signing statements or anything else the Bush administration did. Even if you can find stories from the media, they are nothing even remotely close compared to the daily outrages of the Clinton and now Obama eras across the conservative media.

During the 2010 midterm election season, failed Vice Presidential candidate and person who quit as governor of Alaska halfway through her term, Sarah Palin continued to build her brand on the back of guns, ammo and sex appeal. Even though she failed to help John McCain get elected in 2008, Palin has become a powerful campaigning force. As part of her efforts to help the Tea Party candidates get elected, she released the following graphic:

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Many decried Palin’s use of this kind of imagery and language she was using on Facebook and Twitter, as well as her public appearances. The most damning irony is that Ms. Giffords herself warned of using heated rhetoric, saying that there would be a consequence for such acts. David Weigel has a great piece on the denial gymnastics that Palin’s PR people are did yesterday on a conservative podcast (Ms. Bruce, the host of the podcast is introduced as “a chick with a gun and a microphone”). From the Weigel piece:

MANSOUR: I just want to clarify again, and maybe it wasn’t done on the record enough by us when this came out, the graphic, is just, it’s basically — we never, ever, ever intended it to be gunsights. It was simply crosshairs like you see on maps.

BRUCE: Well, it’s a surveyor’s symbol. It’s a surveyor’s symbol.

MANSOUR: It’s a surveyor’s symbol. I just want to say this, Tammy, if I can. This graphic was done, not even done in house — we had a political graphics professional who did this for us.

I don’t buy that the “surveyor’s symbol” was ever meant to be taken as such. This is ass covering spin. Palin herself (or whoever is paid to tweet for her) posted this gem on March 23, 2010. Screenshot (in case it is deleted):

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Why would Palin need to spin this? Because Palin had “targeted” Ms. Giffords specifically:

In case you missed it, that was Ms. Giffords herself speaking out. Horrid, terrible irony.

Even worse, Giffords’ opponent in 2010, Jesse Kelly, used the language, “Get on target” and “help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office” and “shoot an M16 with Jesse Kelly”. His campaign website has been scrubbed. However, the Arizona Star reported on the event here:

Jesse Kelly, meanwhile, doesn’t seem to be bothered in the least by the Sarah Palin controversy earlier this year, when she released a list of targeted races in crosshairs, urging followers to “reload” and “aim” for Democrats. Critics said she was inciting violence.

He seems to be embracing his fellow tea partier’s idea. Kelly’s campaign event website has a stern-looking photo of the former Marine in military garb holding his weapon. It includes the headline: “Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly.”

The event costs $50.

Sources: 1, 2, 3

Of course, the scrubbing of Kelly’s site and others (Palin’s Facebook page is being scrubbed near instantly) only seems to indict both the Tea Party and the GOP leadership for not speaking out against violent rhetoric.

The only example so far that I’ve been able to find is this piece on Politico.com:

A senior Republican senator, speaking anonymously in order to freely discuss the tragedy, told POLITICO that the Giffords shooting should be taken as a “cautionary tale” by Republicans.

“There is a need for some reflection here – what is too far now?” said the senator. “What was too far when Oklahoma City happened is accepted now. There’s been a desensitizing. These town halls and cable TV and talk radio, everybody’s trying to outdo each other.”

Other things I’ve read:

Swearing off the rhetoric of violence by Joan Walsh on Salon.com

Armed and Dangerous Again by Ruth Calvo on Firedoglake.com

Grief and Shame by Derek Powazek on powazek.com

Treatment Advocacy Center – Arizona post

These are sad times. Sadder that those who know better won’t speak out against what they’ve done to contribute to this awful event. o

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  • http://www.ahurricanecalledcarmen.com Carmeneckard

    Thank you, Jon. You’ve said what I’ve been trying to say for the last 2 days, only much better than I would have said it. So far, I’ve only been successful in starting a few small facebook wars.

    I keep getting comments similar to this: “The unforunate thing about all of this is that a good womans life has been been ruined not to mention the young girl killed, federal judge, and all those injured by a sick nut and everyone is getting distracted on Sarah Palin.” As if sensible liberals are in the wrong for pointing out something clearly obvious…as if we all need to step back and silence ourselves out of respect. I think it is respectful to point out the problem, so as to avoid this happening again, perhaps.

    Just, thank you.

  • Kate

    You know, the vicious, vitriolic hate, in every media form imaginable, generated by the progressives with respect to Bush, Cheney, Palin etc.
    is stunning. Where was your outrage then??
    Kate
    Denver, CO

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      How many guns did you see at any protests against conservatives?
      Bush: was he shot?
      Cheney: was he shot? (He shot somebody else.)
      Palin: entirely culpable for her repeated use of violence in language and imagery.

      These people you list are to blame for not speaking out against violent, divisive and dangerous political rhetoric. It starts at the top. And Sarah Palin is at the top of the pro-violence Tea Party.

      Where is YOUR outrage? You should be ashamed that it got this far. ASHAMED.

      • http://www.mooretokens.com mooretokens

        Actually, according to our trusty Wikipedia, there was a White House shooting shortly after Bush’s inauguration. The shooter had a history of mental illness (coincidence?). From the Wikipedia link, it’s clear that both Republicans and Democrats have been victims of assassination attempts, many of which occurred before this Palin/Cheney/Beck era. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

        It’s not a partisan issue. And it’s not a current issue.

        The inherent capacity to take a life, to vehemently slander, to treat another human being as though he/she weren’t human or didn’t matter… this is soooo much deeper than how political figures talk about each other in today’s media, as repugnant as their words may be. Jon, I completely get your passion about this topic because it is at the crux of the dilemma that humans face – this want to see fairness and justice and “good,” but the incapability (as a race and as individuals) to perfectly uphold that standard.

  • http://cheekymuffy.wordpress.com/ Cheeky Muffy

    Really great post, Jon.

  • linda_blevins

    The most disturbing Sarah Palin action is that on her
    homepage she only offers condolences to the families affected and
    prayer. She does NOT condemn the violence!

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  • http://www.frugalfrontporch.com JennAtFFP

    I find the whole thing sad. Just SAD! I’m no fan of Sarah
    Palin either but politics in this country has become a joke. It’s a
    media popularity contest instead of picking the BEST person who can
    do the job. I firmly believe Sarah Palin’s intentions are focused
    on fame and celebrity rather than governing intelligently with
    discipline and respect for ALL the people of the United States. I
    think Mrs. Palin has fallen into the
    I’m-famous-so-I-can-do-whatever-I-want-without-consequence trap so
    many celebrities have fallen into before. I just wonder when people
    will have enough of her hate filled speech and attitude. Again, I
    just find the entire situation utterly and completely sad.

  • http://www.rageagainsttheminivan.com/ rageagainsttheminivan.com/

    I agree with everything you are saying. I wrote a similar response on Saturday and also had people leaving all sorts of obscure examples of hostile rhetoric from the liberal left. But what is chilling is that Sarah Palin is not some shock-jock pundit. She was a candidate for vice presidency of our country.

    I had not seen the video of Giffords expressing concern over the crosshairs map. Chilling.

    I don’t see how people divorce violent rhetoric from violent action. I’m sick of the defense that violent rhetoric would only be taken literally by a crazy person. Hello? We have a nation full of crazy people who can’t separate hyperbole from the literal.

    I don’t think it’s clear yet if the shooter was inspired by Palin et al. But we shouldn’t have to wonder. It shouldn’t even be a speculation, and Palin’s behavior should be denounced.

  • http://www.sugarleg.com sugarleg

    excellent points Jon, thank you. this is horrifying, and I fear it will get worse. Howard Fineman at MSNBC and HuffPo just posted Rush’s rant from today’s show and pardon the phrase, bullet points of what we can expect to hear from the Right. Palin et al are absolutely culpable here.

    my biggest concern, outside of the health of the victims still recovering, is that the noise will actually only get louder, no gun control laws will be enacted, mental health will be ignored, and worst of all, we will lose the kind of face to face access to our Reps that we need and deserve.

    Fineman here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/10/rush-bails-water-arizona_n_806912.html?ir=Politics

  • faydean

    Well Jon, I can imagine it won’t come as a surprise to you that I don’t agree with you blaming Sarah Palin. I think the notion is simply ridiculous and quite irresponsible actually.

    You have no idea if this man ever even read a thing by Sarah Palin…whether he saw that map or heard something on Fox News. All any of us know of him, so far, is that he was really insane. And not just subtly insane, but obviously so, with behavior that alarmed more than a few people. From all that’s come out today, he was showing major symptoms of schizophrenia, which commonly presents in young men around his age.

    Politics had nothing to do with his actions for all any of us know. His brain told him things that the rest of us don’t hear…he acted in ways of lack of self control routinely according to reports. He had some kind of fascination with the congresswoman. He was, in a word Jon, NUTS.

    It serves no real good to anyone to blame another person, an innocent human being, like Sarah Palin. I realize you don’t like her…disagree with her. But think of what you are accusing her of…having to do with killing innocent people whom she did not know. It’s simply inhumane, from my viewpoint.

    This country was built on people venting their political disdain. You do it all the time on Twitter yourself. I’ve read many, many vitriolic comments from you sir. Do I think you would harm another person? No. I don’t. I may heartily disagree and get righteously pissed by some of your views, but I, in the same breath, don’t honestly hold any ill will towards you. I feel you do for many people you disagree with. Why?

    Why hate someone you have never met…someone you don’t really know, other than through biased media tidbits? Perhaps if you met Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck in person, if you’d let your own internal hatred go of their views, you’d find they are decent people…caring and concerned people. And God forbit, you might actually like them. Imagine that. People are not just their politics Jon…I wish you’d try and embrace that concept.

    I’m not concerned about Sarah Palins gunsight map, no more than I am the rap artists songs calling to kill cops or the Westboro Baptist Church saying God hates fags. People are base creatures…true to nature. We are…always have been. I think we struggle against our inhumanity ever day, collectively. But with that said, people do want to be good and kind and most try and are.

    All I can think of in this whole thing is the dead child…the age of my own daughter, who wanted to meet her Congresswoman because she’d just been voted to student council. The thought of her parents returning home knowing her little body was in a morgue somewhere with a huge wound on her chest…well, I haven’t cried like that in a while. The empathy for those parents…that child goes to my core. And the couple, married years, who did everything together and worked at their church so much…him throwing his body in front of her to shield her. That all overshadows politics…and rhetoric…all the bullshit of the Daily Show and Glenn Beck and gun laws. All of it.

    Jared Loughner is a young man with a severe mental illness. Whether he had motivation for this….whether he was crazy or not, I believe he knew right from wrong and intentionally not only went to kill Congresswoman Giffords, but then felt empowered by that act and decided he wanted to kill more. So he did. And in that 8 seconds he shattered the lives of 20 people. Just. Like. That.

    Fuck MSNBC…Fox…Drudge…HuffPo…fuck it all. The only thing here that matters is feeling the pain of these poor souls and the horror in what took place. If we can do that, then maybe we have a chance.

    I respect you having your own opinion, but this time, I really must tell you that I not only think your view is wrong, but adds to the whole “mess”. It only fuels the division and creates more pain. Grieve for the people, and leave it at that.

    • http://www.sugarleg.com sugarleg

      hi faydean,

      I am really glad you shared this. although passionate and in disagreement with Jon, this is actually the start of something novel called “communication.” this is what has been missing from all of our discourse for years now.

      I agree with you most in your admission of breaking down at the thought of the victims suffering and senseless deaths. just this morning I was late to work as I could not stop the tears long enough to put on my damn make-up. every time I think of them, I choke up.

      I don’t agree with you that Loughner knew right from wrong. his actions along bear that out. and sadly, the vitriol (and near absent gun control in AZ) is what likely enabled him to move from the voices in his head to pulling the trigger.

    • operabug

      Well said faydean! I wish I have more friends like you, reasonable, compassionate and open minded. But I live in New York City, and they want Palin’s head on a platter.

      • faydean

        I appreciate that. Believe me, I have not always been this way. (ask Jon).

        It’s a work in progress…resulting in my own difficult times over the past couple of years. I’ve never been to NYC…one of my best friends just moved there with his boyfriend and LOVES it, though he’s broke all the time, lol.

        Maybe I’ll get to visit there one day since he’s now there. But that will be YEARS from now once my children are much bigger. They hate crowds like I do and would freak I’m sure (or whine)…which would not make for a fun trip.

  • malisams

    I’m with you 100% on the role unchecked, irresponsible, violent language played in this tragedy (and no doubt others). But Loughner is clearly really, really troubled…I just watched a bunch of videos of his posted on YouTube that are just bizarre, and really frightening. The combination of a culture of acceptance of the bullshit that comes out of the likes of Palin’s, O’Reilly’s, Hannity’s, Carlton’s et al ignorant mouths and the fragile mental states of some of the people who listen to them can result in little else but violence. It’ll be interesting to hear what comes out of the right over the coming weeks as the uproar over incendiary communication blows up in the media…

    Thanks for the great links.

  • faydean

    Thanks Sugarleg…

    Jon and I both have very passionate views. I’ve had a couple of years of some personal heartache to really make me realize however that sometimes our personal views can sometimes blind us to the big picture. I find myself taking a step back now and trying to see the other side more. Oh, I disagree, believe me : ). But before I call someone evil…to their face or others…I take a breath. I try and realize that I don’t know the whole truth, therefore can’t just make a broad statement or generalization. And, simply, I don’t have to agree. Ya know…we don’t all like white bread or chocolate. We have that right…it’s ok to be different and feel differently. But I now realize, I can, most all the time, find something I either like, admire or respect in most everyone. I have a cutoff…that’s generally with children, animals and the elderly. I have a real hard time tolerating bad actions to any of those.

    And with that…the death of the child here. Well, I can’t speak of it w/o getting upset. It’s just beyond wrong. There aren’t words for what it is.

    Btw, the only reason I said I think he knew right from wrong is because of the police releasing the fact that he left a note admitting he planned to kill the Congresswoman. He also called a friend and said goodbye and asked people not ot be mad at him. That seems pretty clearheaded to me…and acknowledging his acts were going to be harmful. I think he thought he would die as well, either by police or his own action. Who knows. He’s not talking now, so that also says alot to his realization of what he’s done. Either way…it’s done now. And that is a HARD thing to accept. I find as I get older and my own life presents me with it’s own very hard things to face, that facing all the bad stuff in the world gets more and more difficult. Such a waste in life to purposefully hurt people…when it happens all on it’s own so often anyway, ya know.

    All I know is that the people who died the other day very well could have differed with me politically. Who cares though. Ya know… I don’t grieve their deaths any less. I find them all to be good people who didn’t deserve this. I respect their lives and those of their family. Whether they were for the immigration law or not…who the hell cares now! They died on a sunny Saturday morning after attending mass…before working at their church…on a field trip with a family friend to learn more about government…to be civically minded, concerned citizens in this great country. The contrast between that reality and what they had happen to them…it’s just too much. It reminds me of how I felt after 9/11. Decent people deserve more than being gunned down in the street for the end of their life!

    • http://www.sugarleg.com sugarleg

      age does temper my temper too ;-) also, thanks for sharing your thoughts on why Loughner may have been fully aware of right vs. wrong. I feel pretty strongly that his mental illness gave him a completely perverse view of right and wrong, and therein the bullets flew.

      I appreciate your focus on the victims. I too found myself in a puddle over Christina Green. I think it is no coincidence that she was born on 9/11/01 and was known as a beacon of hope in her family; was an incredible burden to have to share your birthday with that tragedy, but also, what a symbol of the perseverance of the human spirit.

      the stories of each of the victims has me in knots, but the person I cannot stop thinking about is the neighbor who took Christina to the meet-up. (tears falling now…) I relate to that neighbor intensely: I have taken high school and college students to DC for political meetings with Reps and Senators the past two years, including with Rep Giffords. that poor neighbor must be shattered. I hope she forgives herself with haste. I know I would be burdened to the point of breakdown.

      take it easy and keep disagreeing with grace.

      thanks again to you Jon for giving us the space to do this.

      • faydean

        Funny you mention the neighbor…I thought of that myself, once she’s out of the hospital and back home. The guilt she will feel forever…wow.

        And not to just keep rehashing the morbid, but it does show the humanity in all of us…the wife of the man who shielded her…

        A friend of the family said today on Fox that she would recover from her wounds, but coping with the loss of her best friend would be nearly impossible for her.

        Being married (hopefully as long as those two) to my best friend…well, it just breaks my heart.

  • dlw

    It’s easy to throw up our hands and say “nut job,” “loner,” “fringe character;” it’s easy to throw labels around. Making sure people with mental illness get treatment they can afford? That’s hard. Finding ways to talk instead of threaten? That’s hard. Stand up to the gun lobby and its pretty green money? That’s hard.

    It makes perfect sense to me that the Hard Right insists their words don’t matter: they don’t value the language (“refudiate,” anyone?) and don’t value the intelligence of their listeners. The further we devalue the language, however, the further we debase our civilization – anyone read Animal Farm lately?

    Palin’s FB page, in the notes section, still has that map with the “surveyor’s symbols” on it – and a note from her asking her supporters (minions? acolytes? disciples? Ents?) to think about the November elections as “firing the first salvo” in taking back the White House: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=373854973434

    A salvo, eh? Guess it’s only a word, right?
    Tell that to Gabby Gifford, or the parents whose world collapsed on Saturday.

  • lunchstealer

    I’m confused. You say that the violent rhetoric began with Bill Clinton, but the only thing you point to is the appointment of a Ken Starr. A few things you should know about that process.

    The special prosecutor law that enabled Ken Starr was renewed by a Democratic-controlled congress against opposition by the GOP minority in the early 90s (I think ’93, but maybe ’94). GOP leadership at the time argued that it was too easy for the special prosecutor to go on witch hunts, and go far afield from the original incident he was appointed to investigate. AND sure enough they were right. It had happened with Walsh before Starr. Clinton et al renewed the Special Prosecutor law to continue the Walsh fishing expedition. They sowed that particular harvest all themselves.

    In any event, the Starr investigation happened 100% within the legal channels. It was stupid and wasteful, but it’s NOT an example of violent rhetoric.

    And if you don’t think there was violent rhetoric aimed at Shrub, I can only say that seems like selection bias. I can recall quite a bit.

  • fishsticked

    First and foremost, thanks again for the login help.

    This was a fantastic post on the tragedy that occurred. I love your writing on these topics because, while you’re VERY strongly opinionated, you’re intelligent in your wording and your reasoning is sound. I can’t say that I agree with everything, not 100%, but you’re right about a lot of this. I don’t feel that there can be any one explanation applied to what happened on Saturday. Did his mental trouble contribute? Perhaps. Are AZ gun laws too loose? Definitely. Did Palin’s imagery and language contribute, even if indirectly? Absolutely. And the scrubbing of her image while simultaneously claiming that it didn’t contribute is absurd.

    But . . . I still believe that aren’t any blankets that can be thrown over this. There are extremists everywhere. Regardless, does silence from the conservatives who disagree with this behavior help? No. And does it help that, as you cite above, “A senior Republican senator,” decided to speak “anonymously in order to freely discuss the tragedy?” NOT AT ALL. If they feel the need to hide their identity, that alone should stand as proof that there is a problem.

  • faydean

    Dlw…

    I’m sorry, but “salvo” is just a word.

    It was the bullets bought by the man, who put them in the gun and pulled the trigger at Gabby Giffords head that nearly killed her and did kill six others.

    It’s like the old saying about sticks and stones…

    If words could kill…well, most of would be dead already wouldn’t we. Actions, not words, hurt people. I can easily forgive words. Shooting a child in the chest, not so much.

    • Lark

      Hi faydean-
      You have very thoughtful responses.

      Does your “sticks and stones” belief extend to historical political leaders as well as Sarah Palin? Some whose rhetoric inspired great acts of evil come to mind, such as Adolf Hitler, and others whose words inspired great acts of good…Ghandi… Martin Luther King. Do you feel their words also had no power to inspire people into action?

      • faydean

        It’s a fair question.

        I will have to go with my gut response.

        You could argue that someone should have stopped Hitler…that he spewed hate. But in the eyes of Germany, at the time in a great depression and full of desperate people, who would have seen it? And while one can say, nothing bad should ever happen and everyone should be nice, it won’t happen. And in a truly free society, it can’t…you can’t conform thought or speech according to any one person’s box because who knows what the next box would be and the next and the next.

        I’m a journalist by training, though not for years and years and years. I fully support freedom of speech, even the bad kind…even the hurtful kind.

        It’s funny you should bring up Ghandi and MLK because I’d already thought of them both actually. One could argue that they were killed because of what they said…and, in reality, they both were. In my view, and probably yours, they were great men who said great things. To someone else, they said things they didn’t like or want to hear…so they killed them. Now, should they have been quieted because their language could have brought them harm…incited people? Of course not. They did incite people…in a GOOD way (yet, with the ying and yang of life, also in a very bad way to those who did not agree).

        Our founders understood the dire importance of disagreement and of disdain in civil liberty. It is fundamental in creating a true democracy. Is it pretty? No. Is it pleasant? Not always. But it’s like working out and being on a diet…you must endure it in order to reach the goal you strive for…a better you.

        I hate guns. HATE them. However, I argued tonight with my very conservative husband that gun laws or banning guns would not change our society. The weapon of choice would just change to something else. Before guns massive armies in the Far East killed millions with swords, clubs, knives and rocks. Human beings are a violent lot. It’s sad, but true. Can we ever change? Gonna go nihilist a bit here and say, I seriously doubt it.

        It’s up to each of us how to take this stuff in and process it…how to cope…what to do in order to enact change in our own world. Can we change the country…our own communities…the world? Probably not.

        When my best friend killed himself two years ago, right before he died we had a long talk. I had no idea he was planning on killing himself and he and I discussed many deep things. He asked me how happy I’d say I am generally in my life. I told him, about half. He asked me why I said that and how I felt about it. I told him that in order to appreciate the good in life we have to have the bad or else what could we compare it to in order to realize how special it was? You must have both in order to have either.

        Two days later he was dead.

        Do I wish he was still here? Did it kill me to lose him emotionally? Yes and yes.

        Did his death and how it happened teach me things I otherwise NEVER would have learned? HELL yes. I am a different person…I’m a better person. And that might not have happened if I hadn’t been forced to deal with something so horrible.

        I did not realize that, really before. I might have said it, but I didn’t actually KNOW it. Now I do. And with every loss after that (and there were more if you can believe it, which were just as bad), I learned it again and again. And I continue to learn it with every incident such as this. My tone was much different with my children, who’ve been home for a month on winter break, the day I learned that nine year old child died and saw her face. What I was taking for granted was suddenly shoved in front of my face as someone’s immense pain and loss.

        If I don’t process these things like that, well, I’d fucking go completely mad. No doubt. I am done with blame and name calling. I simplly keep my anger to myself and my immediate kin, lol. For everyone else, I try my best to stand firm on being decent and thoughtful in how I view things. Massive loss taught me that. Before, well, I could be a ranting, unyielding bitch : ).

  • dlw

    Faydean: Shooting a child in the chest is indeed unforgivable, unforgettable. When I was putting together lunch boxes this morning for my 10 & 6 year old kids, I had to take a deep breath — the mother of that little girl didn’t make her lunch today, won’t pick her up this afternoon and ask about her first student council meeting. Losing a child is, in my universe, the worst thing that could ever happen. Ever.

    And true, sticks and stones, etc. All true.

    And yet, and yet. It is illegal to scream the word “fire” in a crowded theater; it is actionable to make a joke about carrying a bomb when you’re going through airport security.

    Given the fervor of political rhetoric these days–and yes, most of it is coming from the Hard Right–combined with the diabolical ease with which just about anyone can procure a pretty serious gun–and the diabolical difficulty of trying to help someone with mental health issues and presto, you’ve got yourself a powder keg. Rhetorical term utterly intentional.

    It’s naive to think that someone won’t hear the rhetoric and take it for truth, take it for a command. Leaders who protest that “they didn’t mean it that way” are being false to themselves and to us. We should all expect–and demand–better.

    Henry II asked if anyone would rid him of this meddlesome priest, once, in a room full of knights. I’m sure he was just, you know, joking around. But four guys rode out and slaughtered Thomas Becket in the nave of Canterbury Cathedral. Hank 2 did massive penance–including allowing himself to be publicly flogged. By priests.

    Just saying.
    http://mannahattamamma.com/2011/01/will-no-one-rid-me-of-these-meddlesome-districts/

    • faydean

      Wow, it’s rather impressive the thinking/references in some of these posts.

      Someone else…on a comment board somewhere, can’t recall now, mentioned Thomas Beckett in regards to this situation as well. How random, wow. Cool.

      You’d have to read my views about speech etc above to get my take, however I see your point. Historically, your example was definitely a different time, lol…one would assume that if a knight heard Henry the II say something they might have acted out of fear of reprisal for not acting : ). Back then it was a very kill or be killed kind of situation. Hell, if you get right down to it, it still is. We humans don’t ever really change that much from our animal origins. We’re getting there, but it takes effort and will much of the time. That’s fine…that will imprint on us evolutionarily just as well. (fingers crossed)

      The one thing I keep feeling though with all this concern about setting off people is how paranoia can…and has…lead to just as bad an end. It’s a Catch 22 sadly.

  • Maiken

    Found this gem on Twitter:

    @Bristol_Palin Bristol Palin
    You are a paid member of the “lame stream media” you’re always referring to, mom. Fire all of your ghost writers and tweet for yourself :(
    9 Jan via Twitter for Android

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      That looks legit, Maiken:

      http://twitter.com/#!/bristol_palin/status/24175501618716672

      If it’s true? WOW.

      Edit: However, I just found this: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/01/bristol_palin_d_1.php

      Unfortunately the real Bristol Palin does not use Twitter, as evidenced by the fact that if Bristol Palin really wrote that, it would already be deleted and she would be on Fox News describing the evil liberals who hacked her account.

      I’m guessing that a Fox appearance would be the likely scenario. And still may be. There are about a dozen or so accounts (none that are Twitter-verified) for Bristol Palin.

      • Maiken

        After I commented I found it wasn’t a verified account. I’m sure to get called on my shit by my child. Perhaps it’s best Bristol isn’t on Twitter.

  • http://www.mooretokens.com mooretokens

    Agree: Politics has gotten way too heated and vengeful.

    Agree: Words are powerful, and people in high positions of power are/should be held to a higher standard of what they say and how they act.

    Disagree: I disagree that this is a partisan problem. Here is an example of similar poor behavior and poor mapping from the Left, with pictures of bulls’ eyes, and words like “targets” and “behind enemy lines”: http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647. Target an enemy, huh? Nope, no violence insinuated there.

    “Time magazine pondered a ‘new era of political correctness,’ because both parties were guilty—why, in 2008, candidate Barack Obama even riffed off the never-bring-a-knife-to-a-gunfight line from The Untouchables!” http://www.slate.com/id/2280674/

    Disagree: I disagree that the shooter committed this act directly as a result of Sarah Palin’s map. Reports are out that the shooter knew Gifford and didn’t think much of her long before the Palin map. Am I justifying Palin, or anyone? Not at all (see agree points above), but I absolutely think there is no evidence at this time to suggest the shooter was merely reacting to political banter (he could have been reacting just as easily to any violet movie, TV show, or video game – or none of these – for all we know).

    Disagree: I disagree that because Obama or Palin or any other political figure (if you call Palin a political figure) use certain metaphors that this suggests they condone violence or are indecent people. If I remember correctly, Heather called Marlo “evil” in a blog post. Does this define Heather’s character as one of violence and hatred? Of course not! It’s a hyperbole she used for humor and to convey her emotions/frustrations at that time. My husband will often shout, “Blast him!” at the TV while watching football. Does he really mean to shoot down the opposing team’s quarterback? Of course not. I think you get my point here. These are metaphors that are used and are not to be taken literally. Are they appropriate in politics? Well, maybe not (see point about leaders having a higher standard). That’s worth discussing. But this is not a partisan issue and this is certainly not reason for a character debate on anyone who may have used such metaphors.

    • mrsjs15

      Good points all the way around! I also posted the link you did below.

      I have to agree with you the most on metaphors and words being taken literally/seriously.

      We cant know that this kid was set off by the Palin map – like you said, he had issues with Gifford way before.

      Unfortunately, I think we are seeing a classic case of “Shifting the Blame” here.

  • mrsjs15

    I’m sorry, but I have to disagree with you on singling out Sarah Palin’s crosshairs map.

    You do know that Democrats have used the same type of maps in the past, dont you? While I’m no fan of Sarah Palin’s, spreading the notion that this is the first time one has ever used such a diagram only furthers the political rhetoric problems you yourself are portraying.

    Take a look at some of the diagrams that have been used in the past by Democratics and liberals: http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647

    They look awfully familiar, dont they?

    You’re posts since this one seem to just be a continuation of the same political rhetoric that you are speaking out against here. Do you not see that posting a picture of Palin saying “Whoops!” with crosshairs in the O’s could set someone on “YOUR SIDE” off? No one knows what triggers anyone – perhaps someone out there will take THAT and use it as a reason to shoot up a crowd of people.

    Which leads me to, I think its a huge disservice for anyone to act as armchair psychologist at this time. Second hand information from people who have interacted with this kid is NOT the same as a Licensed Mental Health Professional giving an exact diagnosis. You dont know if this kid is schizophrenic any more than any actual Mental Health Professional knows right now. And its not right for ANYONE to make claim on what MIGHT have set this kid off.

    ANYTHING could have. And ANYTHING could set someone else off – including a person who reads YOUR blog, sees a picture or rant about Palin, thinks its some sort of suggestion, takes it and runs with it.

  • common_sd

    How many BS writings like this have been posted in the last
    4 days? Let me preface this by saying I am not a conservative or a
    liberal, despise Palin just as much as Barney Frank or Alan
    Grayson. But come on. I do expect this kind of garbage from a blog
    writer though. Just because you source information doesn’t mean
    what is written about the sourced info is legitimate. Obviously you
    consider yourself some sort of journalist or fancy yourself as
    someone with a voice that people should be listening to. You can
    fall back on what most bloggers do and say “but i’m not a
    journalist so I can be as biased as I want to” Be that that truth,
    do you not feel a little mentally challenged by being so one sided
    in your thoughts? Trying to bend the deaths of innocent people at
    the hands of someone completely unstable to further establish your
    stereotypes and assumptions of people you don’t agree with? Even
    when left bloggers or the media dont directly come out and blantly
    lay blame on Sarah Palin, they say things like “Even though we dont
    know if this is why the shooter did this, but hey look at this map
    from Sarah Palin” Its a very cute way to writers to hide their
    bias. Very spineless way of reporting and I use the word reporting
    lightly. So with that being said, let me destroy your argument with
    guns and conservatives. 1. shooter legally obtained the gun. – FBI
    background checks on the mental stability of someone purchasing a
    gun would have helped, especially considering the history of
    problems that were reported to the police with his behavior. The
    actual purchasing of the gun wasnt made easier or harder because of
    the change in the conceal carry law change in AZ though. Which was
    supported by the police in AZ who say their best friend on the
    streets is a legal gun owning citizen. You can argue a ban would
    have made this gun not legally available to this shooter, but does
    nothing to stop illegally obtained weapons..which a majority of
    crimes are committed with. If someone in the crowd was carrying a
    weapon, you could also argue that the conceal carry law change
    helped stop or lower the amount of carnage the shooter was allowed
    to do. The ownership of guns stopping or deterring crime is way
    higher than deaths caused by guns. 2. George Packer piece in the
    New Yorker – Relentless hostile rhetoric from the left appers in
    comment threads, not congressional speeches and national tv
    programs….are you kidding me? ed Shultz, mike malloy, Paul
    Krugman, Dailykos.com (who had a target list with Giffords name on
    it) or even Harry Mitchel (dem from Arizona who put is appointent
    in the crosshairs of a sniper rifle and broadcast as a political
    commerical) should I keep going or you understand the BS from Mr.
    Packer…. 3. Last 20 years, increased violent language against
    people and parties in power (agree with you there until…) you
    follow it with all attacks on Clinton, conservative talk radio and
    the GOP (bad ones at that with no examples) – So there was never
    any violent language used against George Bush, Cheney, or any other
    conservatives in the last 20 years? No websites or talking heads or
    radio (ahh remember Air America) that discredited the president on
    a daily basis? Should I find maybe a million examples or you
    understand you are full of shit already? 4. Sarah Palin….. – I
    love when Liberals attack Palin. Not only because I am not a fan of
    her as well, but the dead horse has been beat SO many times about
    making fun of her or discrediting her that just watching another
    person jump on the bandwagon is hilarious and sad at the same time.
    - Show me an example of her using sex appeal to build her brand?
    other than she is a powerful attractive woman? I never see the left
    want to show their misogynist and sexist colors while being afraid
    of an attractive woman with Power. left you have Naplitano,
    Clinton, Pelosi, Maddow, Huffington (who was probably not all that
    bad looking 20 years ago) and compare them to women like Sarah
    Palin and I see why they are so upset. But I give you Ann Coulter
    who looks like the skeleton of a transvestite…. – The SarahPAC
    graphic. I wonder how many times this grahic has been copied and
    pasted now. Is this the ONLY time a target list has been made in
    politics? or just the only one you can find. 5. – Jesse Kelly -
    this event is shown in distaste now, but at the time his
    constituents were pro-gun people. Its easy to take something in the
    past and apply to an event now. The thing is, pro-gun people are
    law biding gun owners. This event wasnt a “come out and learn to be
    a militia and take out the government” If the event was for car
    lovers and you could come out and drive a monster truck, then
    someone was killed by a monster truck would this still be in just
    as bad taste? or completely have nothing to do with what happened
    over the weekend….. 5. Tea Party and GOP leaders not speaking out
    - one, a lot of them have been trying to keep their names clean
    after being dragged through the mud for something they had no
    control of. Two, they have been speaking out, but you have to read
    more than just the headlines on Huffpo or Salon.com. I think
    speaking out has a different meaning to you or other people on the
    left though. I think you want them to drop to their knees and ask
    for forgiveness because their evil ways has cost the death of
    innocent people. But it hasnt…so they wont. – would love to know
    who the Rep. Sen. that felt he couldnt speak freely. Especially
    concerning his quote about Oklahoma City….which again had NOTHING
    to do with republicans or how they speak. I am guessing he didnt
    research or read anything about Timothy McVeigh. Equating the two
    events shows his stupidity. Just because they found a rep. to say
    something stupid doesn’t mean it is correct. 6. – your comments to
    Kate: – How many guns did you see at protest against
    conservatives….umm good question…how many did you see?
    Especially considering conceal carry laws or the disregard for law
    how ar you to say there were no guns at any liberal rallies? And
    the protest I think you are speaking of….was that the one that
    MSNBC cropped to show a man with a gun at a conservative rally and
    talked about the evil white people showing up with guns only to
    find out it was a black man legally carrying a weapon. – Bush wasnt
    shot. Remember that movie that was made that showed his
    assasination? hmm. imagine someone making that movie now? – Just
    because 2 of the people that you mentioned were not actually shot
    doesnt erase the violent language or imagery used against them.
    Using your reasoning of blaming three people because they didnt
    speak out against divisive or dangerous political rhetoric than
    there are a TON of people you left out. I am sure this comment will
    fall on deaf ears. Common sense usually does. No matter how much is
    used, these cowardly written blog posting and speeches and cable tv
    rants will continue because we choose to look at the issues of our
    ideas and not out society.

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