Health Status: Middle Aged Man Still Haunted by Mystery Chest Pains

I’m still having the mystery chest pains. I’m going to post a timeline for myself, so I have a dedicated space to remember how all this happened and so I can tell the next doctor I see the order of things. Let’s start the timeline.

January 24–30: Trip to Mexico via a two day stopover in Las Vegas. During the Mexico trip, I reduce my Adderall XR intake to nil, so that I can enjoy an afternoon nap. It’s heaven.

January 30 — February 8: Start back up on the Adderall. Slowly ease into taking Wellbutrin. Notice none of the side effects I had with Prozac. Feeling good, full of energy. Sometime during this week, notice a difficulty breathing, but nothing panicky. Assume it’s a stretched muscle from working out, chiropractic adjustment or coming back into dry air from a humid climate. I read up on Wellbutrin/Adderall drug combo. Find a warning about chest pains on MedlinePlus site (link). Eliminate the ADHD/ADD stimulants & SSRIs. Cold turkey. No adverse mental effects. I fall asleep at 8:30 one night and sleep all the way through to 6am. That hasn’t happened for years. Assume it’s Adderall withdrawal. Feel fine the next day, with the exception that the chest pains and tight breath haven’t gone away.

February 10: Decide to see a doctor. I call and get an appointment that day to our family clinic. Have blood drawn, EKG, chest x-ray and get prescribed Augmentin/amoxicillin 875mg (2x daily) for sinus infection. Doctor says x-rays are inconclusive about a possible pulmonary embolism. Doctor tells me that if there is any increase in chest pain to go immediately to the nearest ER. He also gives me a prescription for 800mg ibuprofen.

February 11: Function ok, but notice that the ibuprofen, which normally does a great job with pain for me, is doing nothing. After talking over lunch with Heather and telling her the pain is worse and I’m scared, we head immediately to the nearest ER. I’m given some children’s aspirin in orange bubble packs. It seems weird to give aspirin in the ER like this. I have a subthread in my brain about what’s really in the orange pills, but it tastes like childhood and maybe the stress of the unknown is getting to me. The rest of the next three days is chronicled here.

February 15–21: Seem to be have levelled off. The pain in the chest has subsided somewhat, although never gone. I get an abdominal sonogram on the 18th.

February 22: The pain is not responding to anything (except maybe, for a short time, the Omaprazole. I’m wondering about the best time of day to take that pill, as it says to take it at least one hour before food. I’m taking it at 11 am, around an hour before lunch. I call in to my doctor and go in to receive a nebulizer treatment (helps a little) and an NSAID called Indomethacin. It seems to help for an hour or two, but then the pain returns. Also prescribed Ventonlin to see if the pain is possibly asthma-related. I’ve never had an asthma attack that I’m aware of, but I do feel like I’m getting more of a breath when I inhale.

February 23: OMG! The New York Times story about Heather goes live on the web. Chaos and nervous monitoring of the servers. Pain still there. I see my psychiatrist to talk about what has happened and his opinion is that the psych meds did not cause this, as my outward behavior would be much different if I had experienced a reaction. He’s never seen Adderall and Buproprion interact and create pain like this. He also does not think that I’m having panic attacks or anxiety. He asks about stress. I laugh and remind him of our home business. I mention that since I’ve been cold turkey with Adderall, maybe we need to look at trying something else for the ADD that might be a better fit and easier to prescribe and less of a stimulant. I leave with a starter pack of Strattera and he tells me to take the pill once a day at dinner. It’s a lot different than how Heather took Strattera back in 2004. I Pass out at 9:30 pm.

February 24: I awaken sharply at 12:45am and do not get back to sleep until 3:45 or 4 ish. I awake with a start at 7 to Heather and Marlo by the bed, Marlo having been awake since 6am, which we view as a miracle. Heather never got back to sleep after awakening at 1:30 and she out of bed at 3 am to get ready for her travel day.

Currently thinking the pain is:

  • stress
  • muscular-skeletal (pulled something)
  • asthma
  • stomach something
  • Mystery Diagnosis bound

I know this is likely tedious, boring and dumb. I should probably just get some Valium and see what happens.

  • http://tigweb.wordpress.com/ jana

    I tweeted this to you but thought I would add it here, just in case anyone has a similar experience: Even if an ultrasound shows up clear, you could be having gallbladder issues. I had two very severe, extremely painful and sudden pain attacks a few months after my daughter was born. Woke me up from a deep sleep. Mainly right side. Ultrasound showed nothing. But googling turned up the fact that sometimes “sludge” (pre-stone material) can cause similar pain to a gallbladder attack, but not show up on ultrasounds.

    Sometimes it turns into stones, but other times it can dissipate. I cut out fats for a while and that seemed to do the trick. Mine was probably postpartum acute gallbladder issues, which I realize is not your case. But, for what it’s worth…

  • http://twitter.com/labradoris labradoris

    Hi Jon,

    Obviously you aren’t looking for unsolicited medical advice/diagnoses (or maybe you are?), so I’ll just limit my comment to my own experience with my gallbladder. Hopefully that might help narrow down your own self-diagnosing.

    As you know, gallbladder attacks can mask themselves as various forms of chest pain, which is probably why so many are suggesting your gallbladder. And I’ve heard, as well as the commenter above, that sometimes gallbladder “sludge” won’t show up on an ultrasound/sonogram.

    Mine — at the ripe old age of 17 — began violently acting up. All attacks were triggered by heavy foods (e.g., meat, honey, oils). The first time it happened, I spent the evening in my bathroom attempting to vomit just to relieve the pain. I loaded up on tums, mylanta, nothing worked. The pain was awful. I can still remember it to this day (ten years later!). For me, it was on my right side by my rib cage, right around where the diaphragm is. Breathing was painful, I couldn’t get a full breath in, and I only found mild relief if I could sit myself in a specific position. After a few hours, the pain would transfer to feeling like a hot rod had been pushed through my rib cage and out my back — sometimes also why gallbladder stuff results in back pain. Then, it would slowly subside and the following day I would be left with a sore back and stomach muscles (even my rib cage hurt). For days afterward, I would be left with a feeling of mild discomfort (like I had pulled a muscle in my back or something). After the second time it happened, a general practitioner was prepared to run the gamut of tests on me — mainly he thought it was GERD, anxiety, or some strange form of asthma. As he was typing up the request for my bloodwork, he suddenly turned around and said, “Wait, where did you say your pain was again?” I re-described it and pointed to exactly where it hurt and what it felt like. He immediately sat back down and said, “I bet it’s your gallbladder.” Off to the hospital I went for an ultrasound. Gallstones showed up, had it taken out within three weeks. Those three weeks were sheer agony — it got to where I was no longer eating, because it wasn’t just high-fat, high-oil foods that were causing the attacks — I almost couldn’t eat anything without having an attack. Now, luckily I had a GP that took a lucky guess, and an ultrasound tech that caught it, and a surgeon who believed my pain.

    Gallstones/gallbladder issues can be hereditary — and when my grandmother was 23 and pregnant, she checked herself into the hospital and had hers taken out, because no one believed her for months prior and thought she was just trying to get good drugs. Turns out all the doctors were wrong — her gallbladder was full of stones.

    Anyway, sorry for the long comment, I just wanted to share my story so you could compare. Not intended as any kind of medical advice. ;)

    I do hope you feel better, you receive a treatable diagnosis, or the pain magically goes away. That kind of thing can be a bitch to deal with while trying to live every day life. Best wishes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Jacobs/590861439 Amy Jacobs

    Jon,

    You say the pain is on the right…where? In your sternum, shoulder, below ribs? Is it constant, throbbing or stabbing (ie comes and goes)?

    Does it radiate anywhere? If so, where…down your side, to your shoulder, through your back?

    Do you get pain and/or irritation to your breathing by doing this:

    pull your arms into your chest, ie like a boxer…rotate your upper body back and forth in small movements (think twisting motion, like washing machine)…

    Does this irritate your breathing, the pain?

    Have you been sick with any viruses withing the past three months? Had coughing bouts or bronchitis?

    Amy J.

    (my hubs has NOTHING to do with these questions…just me. I wanna see if my “gut” could be right on something)

  • http://twitter.com/newbiesurgeon KatCamp

    Sent you a PM tweet, but reading this after sending those, and I stand by my rec for an upper scope. In the interim, see if you notice any difference in relation to meals (better/worse with meals?; how soon after eating do you get pain?).

    Can always try OTC Indigestion stuff in addition to Omeprazole, just to help give you clues as to what helps/hurts. If it’s something like gastritis (inflammation of the stomach) or an ulcer, taking Ibuprofen or Indomethacin can make it worse, a lot worse.
    kcmd AT me DOT com(no spaces) if any questions.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Jacobs/590861439 Amy Jacobs

      I’ve had HORRIBLE reflux for years and the BEST drug I’ve ever used is OTC…Zegrid!!

      It is what you are taking now Jon (what I took for years as well), the only difference is the addition of bicarbonate soda (baking soda)!!

      I swear if you have bad reflux or indigestion, this drug will change your life…there is a whole chemistry behind why adding that old time basic thing to it works so well…but I swear by it and have recommended to everyone I know with reflux. They are all believers now.

      Btw, I didn’t really realize it, but you and I are having similiar symptoms. I really do think I know what’s causing your pain…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Jacobs/590861439 Amy Jacobs

    P.S. when you do that rotating motion, do you hear or feel a “grinding” sort of sensation/sound?

    How often are you exercising?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Jacobs/590861439 Amy Jacobs

    P.S. when you do that rotating motion, do you hear or feel a “grinding” sort of sensation/sound?

    How often are you exercising?

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      Nope. And I can’t do the insane workouts with the trainer yet. I tried last week and the pain was excruciating and scary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stu.mark Stu Mark

    What’s your status? Have you gone to a gastroenterologist? We’re worried about you, ’cause Leta isn’t quite ready to admin the servers just yet (though soon, I bet).

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      Thanks. I gobbled a ton of Tums yesterday along with Gaviscon. That seems to be doing the trick. Mostly.

  • http://twitter.com/JamesJM James John Malcolm

    Hope you start feeling better and/or figure out what it is Jon!

    (PS. I think it’s Lupus)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=519348091 Mariam Farah

      Hmm, I certainly hope not. I know that autoimmune disorders are hard to diagnose, but people with lupus usually suffer with a whole range of strange symptoms for months or even years before they’re diagnosed (aching joints, strange rashes, etc.). My sister has lupus and it’s certainly a horrible disease. Jon’s a little out of the age range for when lupus typically strikes, plus he’s a man (and although men have lupus, too, it’s much more common in women). Moreover, with the exception of this recent health scare, he appears and sounds like a healthy individual with plenty of energy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=519348091 Mariam Farah

      Hmm, I certainly hope not. I know that autoimmune disorders are hard to diagnose, but people with lupus usually suffer with a whole range of strange symptoms for months or even years before they’re diagnosed (aching joints, strange rashes, etc.). My sister has lupus and it’s certainly a horrible disease. Jon’s a little out of the age range for when lupus typically strikes, plus he’s a man (and although men have lupus, too, it’s much more common in women). Moreover, with the exception of this recent health scare, he appears and sounds like a healthy individual with plenty of energy.

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      If I were on House, YES, IT’S BLOODY LUPUS!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=612465447 Isabelle Hurteau

    Hey Jon, I’m going to chime in with my non medical professional two cents here. A few years back I had weird chest pains with breathing difficulties. I had asthma for a long time but this felt a lot different. And I also had stomach problems in the past but again, this felt different. The doctors concluded i had an excess of stomach acid which was irritating my lungs and more. I was prescribed Nexium because it had worked previously. What worked even better? Acupuncture. It helps excess acid, breathing and most of all stress… especially after running around to see countless doctors and get all those tests done. (Remember to breathe from your belly, not your chest. Hard when you’re in pain, I know) Sending good vibes your way. isabelle

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=519348091 Mariam Farah

    Hi Jon,
    I commented earlier but for some reason my comment didn’t post. Apologies if this posts twice. I just wanted to suggest that you see a pulmonologist if you haven’t yet. From a layman’s perspective, your symptoms sound a lot like pleurisy, which can have a number of different causes. My sister develops it almost every year (she has an auto-immune disorder) and the catalyst seems to be Utah’s crappy air quality. Hope you get feeling better soon!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UYMBXBKZ34CR6WVMRSS5KBRQDQ openyourmind

    Have they checked you our for neck injury or muscle pulls? About 15 years ago, I lifted a suitcase wrong and two hours later ended up in the ER with chest and arm pain which mimicked a heart attack. Felt like I had an elastic bandage too tight around my sternum, pain shooting down my left arm into my hand, knife under my shoulder blade. Could not take deep breaths. Turned out to be a pinched nerve in my right side shoulder/neck area. Physical therapy didn’t help, but a chiropractor did.

    Hope you find a diagnosis and easy solution soon…

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      Thanks for sharing this. I’ll definitely look into it on my next chiropractor visit.

  • http://twitter.com/la_florecita la_florecita

    Not tedious. Not boring. Certainly not dumb. Good luck and hope you feel better soon!

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      Thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/txgrrl Sarah Hassell

    Jon — I am so sorry to hear about all this. I echo the other commenters that keeping this diary will be amazingly useful. I had a heart transplant several years ago so forgive me if to me everything looks like a nail from the perspective of my cardiac hammer! One other thing to consider is pericarditis. I’m sure the echo and/or stress test may have ruled that out, but it is one possibility. Treatment is tons of prednisone which is awful but does the trick. Anyway, just one more bit of ammo for you next time you go in. Feel better, my friend! You Armstrongs are a hardy bunch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=702664661 Megan Caputo

    Is it Legionnaires’ disease?? I’ve been ill since returning from Cozumel a week ago. (I don’t believe I have Legionnaires’ but I did read some folks are contracting it after visiting.) You seem to have some of the same symptoms.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OWZQMNFECVSKHJ5PEZFFQUCMNM Anna Coleman

    Hmn, I diagnose mid-life crisis, but you’re such a nice man that instead of getting a sports car and a cheerleader you’re getting mysterious physical symptoms?
    On a serious note though, I hope you figure out what’s going on. I don’t have any medical expertise that would enable me to conjecture, but I know from my experience that these things begin with stress, and physical repercussions follow. Stress is the big marker. I vote making Tyrant managing director, getting in another tech person, and you and Heather becoming directors and blogging wirelessly from various exotic meditation retreats! (Okay, you may need a nanny too).

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amy-Jacobs/590861439 Amy Jacobs

    Jon,

    Here’s my two cents: I have three possibilities, be very interested when you get a diagnosis to see if I could have been right : ).

    1) Costchondritis…this all seems to have started along with your picking up in exercise. Exercise can induce costo and will continue as long as the irritation is present. You say the pain is relieved by NSAIDS…this would fit as costo is inflammation and would respond to them. It would resolved eventually given you rest for a while and lay off the exercise.

    2) Ulcer…you have pretty classic symptoms. NSAIDS will make it worse…the ulcer could be in your esophagus, which can refer to the your chest just like this. I’d get a test for H-Pilori (a bacteria that often causes them) and then a scope of that comes back negative. If you have reflux for a while, ulcer is a definite possibility.

    3) If you are taking supplements/vitamins or pills daily…consider the chance that they are getting caught in your esophagus. I actually had this happen the other night with a vitamin C tablet and thought I was going to DIE. It was some of the worst pain I’ve ever felt…actually came close to going to the ER. Once I realized what it was I just tried to ride it out. It took a FULL day to subside and literally felt like a knife was being stabbed in my chest every time I took a breath…all from a pill stuck (that would NOT dislodge for anything!) Google injury esophagus pill induced…it’s scarily common and VERY common for people who take Vitamin C and antibiotics (both very corrosive and can quickly cause an ulcer in the throat). Even after the damn pill finally passed, my chest and throat hurt for a full day and I could not bend over or lay down w/o it hurting worse.

    Good luck.

  • http://twitter.com/HeadacheSlayer The Crafty Angel

    I’m thinking Gallbladder (agree w/ sludge theory AND you could have passed a stone). Also GERD/esophagitis. I had an attack of the latter and it felt dead-on like a heart attack. As in call 911/take aspirin/rode in ambulence bad. The ER director had had esophagitis and said yeah it hurts that bad–so taking NSAIDS (esp the Indocin which kicked my ass and my stomach) won’t help that. Costochondritis is a good call–I thought I had it for years but haven’t ever since having my gall bladder out so maybe I was having gall bladder attacks all along.

    My husband calls me House–I diagnosed his gallstones before our family doc did (but that was 2 yrs after I had mine out).

    I hope you figure it out and feel better soon!

    • http://blurbomat.com blurb

      Thanks for this.

      I’m going to post about the last week as well as schedule another Doctor appointment. I’m going to push for gall bladder tests.