Advertising Homophobia and Losing
March 25th, 2006
I saw this post on Boing Boing involving a blogger and free speech. Justin had posted the above image in response to this image:
source: imightbeinatree.com
which is/was a campaign by Exodus International, a group that disagrees with homosexuality and tries to “cure” it through the “love of Jesus Christ” amongst other methods.
Justin got a cease and desist letter from Exodus, got legal representation and contacted the ACLU. Here’s the ACLU response.
This story got picked up by USA Today. Result thus far: Exodus has backed off.
blurbomat 2¢: blurbomat believes that most gay people are born gay. Some might not be and make a choice to be gay, but we believe those individuals to be in the minority in the gay community. We also believe that any Christian group trying to un-gay somebody is hypocritical. We don’t believe that being homosexual is a sin. We think the cross to bear is not for those who are gay, but those who believe in crosses in the first place. o
March 25th, 2006 at 1:24 pm
I have to just smack my forehead at billboards like the Exodus one, and their response to Justin.
I’d say this to Exodus: Even if that IS what you believe, do you honestly think you are going to command any respect by putting up such a ridiculous message and THEN taking on someone who takes exception to it? He’s just as free to express what he believes as you are. If someone tried to attack your right to express yourselves, you’d cry persecution. So what is it that you’re doing to Justin? He didn’t deface your property, he simply shared his own take.
Regardless of the ignorance of the root belief, they seem really ignorant of PR, as well.
Very, very sad.
March 25th, 2006 at 1:31 pm
The lawyers for Exodus sure are stupid. Hooray for Jason!
March 25th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
ooops! I meant Hooray for Justin! :)~
March 25th, 2006 at 2:37 pm
The main reason I moved to Utah and lived in Provo was the Exodus-like program called Evergreen which used an LDS approach. I had the “benefit” of Reparative Therapy. I ended up in Happy Valley’s psych ward on suicide watch. I desperately feverently wanted to be straight. More than anything else in the world. I couldn’t understand why fasting and praying and living a pure life didn’t get rid of this horror in my life. The thing that everyone hated and has caused me and my family so much pain. The thing God hates the most. The abomination of homosexuality. I tried everything. I sacrificed everything. It was never enough. I was never happy. I wanted to die. Every single day of my life I contemplated ending it. Just giving up. Something was wrong with me that I couldn’t be straight. I was an abomination. This was my life during Reparative Therapy.
I finally realized that I am what I am. I can’t change it. I didn’t choose it. It just is. I realized that I am a gay man and that it’s o.k. I’m a moral, ethical, loving, compassionate human being. That’s all that matters. If God sends me to hell for that then no one has a chance.
March 25th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
Jon, thanks for sharing this, and for being a great ally to the gay community.
MAN, being straight would be so much easier than being gay. I could get married. I could start a family without having to plunk down thousands of dollars just to get pregnant. I wouldn’t feel stupid having to justify my relationship to ignorant people. I could live wherever I wanted and not fear that ignorance.
Oh well. I really love my life, and I’m used to the battles. I’m willing to fight them, because they deserve to be fought.
To Sam: I’m glad you found yourself.
Thanks again, Jon.
March 25th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
Yes I do realize the word is “fervently.” Typos are my fortÈ.
Thanks Katie!
March 25th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
I worked for Gay.com in San Francisco. I loved those damn people. I’m so freaking happy they’re going to be getting some more traffic for this. Gay.com (and PlanetOut) saved so many lives. I can’t imagine a world without them and other sites and outlets like them.
And good for Justin.
For the life of me, I can’t understand why anyone out there cares that much about another person’s sexuality. I just don’t get it. I must be missing a chromosone.
March 25th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
I am a Christian myself, and I do not hate gays or bisexuals at all. I don’t judge anyone, like I hope no one judges me. My belief is what I think is the correct way, and I’ll pray for the sinners (everyone) that doesn’t believe in the Christian way to someday soon find the light.
Anyway, enough with being preachy. I will admit, I only have a few friends that are bisexual (male and female). It just happens to be I don’t know many people around here that are [homosexual], or atleast that are open about their sexuality.
I think people, even The Church, needs to get a sense of humor sometimes. Lifes to hard to not just sit back and laugh sometimes and see that not everything is trying to hurt you. The sign has a purpose, to tell people about their services. Now in Sam’s posistion, I don’t know everything but let me say that he was forced or harassed to change. That is totally wrong, one of the rules of God, is that He will not force you todo anything. It is your own free will to follow his word.
March 25th, 2006 at 6:30 pm
Justin should ask for donations to make that billboard a reality now that its been decided it isn’t unlawful.
March 25th, 2006 at 6:36 pm
Amen, Jon. Amen.
Prurient interest and meddling in personal lives is unacceptable. Period. That said interest and meddling tends to be attached to myopic, judgmental self-righteousness is deeply offensive.
March 25th, 2006 at 7:31 pm
Thanks Jon.
The more people that speak out against homophobes, the better.
March 25th, 2006 at 7:42 pm
Right on, Jon. The last paragraph of your blurb is dead-on.
Many so-called Christians have forgotten that their gospel says “do not judge,” but they instead judge the homosexual community as broken and feel the need to fix them. Like you and Sam said, most gay people are truly born that way. Christians running in to “fix” them is ludicrous.
Bravo to Justin - and I like veg4me’s idea to get a billboard like his, right next to Exodus’, if possible!
Also good to know I’m not the only nerd who reads boingboing religiously.
March 25th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
Anyone who says “I do not hate gays or bisexuals at all” is homophobic. People who aren’t homophobic don’t need to point out that they don’t hate the sinner, because they just don’t care.
Why do so many people care who others have sex with?
March 25th, 2006 at 8:01 pm
fernypants,
I don’t see how wanting the same rights for everybody, regardless of their sexual orientation, is homophobic. I’m letting your comment stand, but only because I don’t think you read Sam’s comment before you. It’s people with the courage like Sam to tell their stories of social castigation and pain that underscore the need for this discussion.
March 25th, 2006 at 8:38 pm
You didn’t understand my comment. I am saying that people who have to point out that they don’t hate something/someone before they defend their opposition to it is being a hypocrite, or, more likely, dishonest with themselves. I don’t have to preface what I say about gay people, or any minority, with “I don’t hate them, BUT…” because it goes without saying. Saying I don’t hate gay people, I just hate what they do (I am referencing Chris’ post, not Sam’s) is a fundamental dis.
For example, I love my religion, it is a BIG part of me. If someone says I don’t hate you, Ferny Pants, I hate your church, I am insulted, because I AM my church. When people say something negative about something that is as defining as our sexuality (to all of us, not just homosexuals), it bruises, even if it is prefaced with “I don’t hate you, but…”
What I am saying is that people who make comments that have to forwarn that they don’t hate what they are about to hate on need to look inward.
March 25th, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Just for the record:
I think that the whole born gay or life-style choice thing is a red herring. The constitution, civil rights, human rights and basic human courtesy and decency apply to all.
March 25th, 2006 at 8:53 pm
Actually, I can kind of see where fernypants is coming from, I think. In an ideal world, People wouldn’t even use terms such as gay, bisexual, black or hispanic, people wouldn’t even care or see those identifiers.
I have known people to say things like, “There’s a difference between a black person and a (n word). I know a lot of black people.”
I think, although, I’m not sure, that’s where fernypants is coming from.
I have no idea. Either way, in an ideal world, it really shouldn’t matter. Your being Christian, my being atheist, her being gay, he being a tranny — it shouldn’t matter. We should all just be.
But that’s living in a perfect world and one without a need to fit in or comply to some sort of label.
March 25th, 2006 at 8:58 pm
P.S. Before tonight, I hadn’t signed up to leave a comment at blurbomat. I guess a nerve was hit. Or it’s the wine talking. I’d like to think it’s my inability to understand why anyone would care who anyone else loves especially if you’re doing so in the name of a God you love. I just don’t get it. Love is love. Let it be.
Whatever made me sign in and up, please forgive me for my mistakes in grammar. heh
March 25th, 2006 at 9:00 pm
Maybe I am confused. Sorry, blurb. We had an overlap. I was upset by my grammar.
I’m often confused.
March 25th, 2006 at 9:00 pm
Fernypants, were you talking to me or to Chris Adams?
March 25th, 2006 at 9:13 pm
I was talking to you, but I was refering to Chris. I was just trying to clarify my original post.
March 25th, 2006 at 10:35 pm
I really like your last line.
That said, I’m going to say I’m getting tired of this. People are so brazen about their intolerances, I can’t believe it.
Let’s all just move away. Somewhere else and not tell anyone where we are going. I think that this would be the easiest way to solve this problem, and so many others.
March 25th, 2006 at 10:55 pm
Great post, Jon. Thanks for this. I sure would like people to get off the homophobia issue and let people be whoever they were meant to be.
March 25th, 2006 at 11:51 pm
fernypants was quoting Chris Adams, and basically saying that when you hear from a religious person, “I don’t hate homosexuals” (with the unsaid *but…*), you know they’re not hanging out at PFLAG meetings.
March 25th, 2006 at 11:52 pm
kudos to justin for not backing down, and for not rolling over at the idle threat of a clearly under-prepared firm.
and kudos to the ACLU for taking this on. THIS is exactly the type of thing that needs to be nipped in the bud before it heads to court.
i, for one, happen to agree with blurb on the nature versus nurture issue. it has been my experience that this holds true, as all of my dear friends say that they had always known. and i believe very strongly that since god is not a vengeful or hateful diety, that the claim that this sexuality is a sin to be utter bullshit. to be a gay-basher/hater, whatever you call them, is quite possibly the MOST un-Christian thing possible - or un-religous for that matter. i thought religion taught tolerance and love for all of god’s creatures. i guessed i missed the part where hate was a Christian teaching… i got all wrapped up in the one where i was told “you are god’s perfect child”.
blurb - thank you for posting this. and for allowing open discussion.
March 26th, 2006 at 7:46 am
“We think the cross to bear is not for those who are gay, but those who believe in crosses in the first place.”
Bravo! I love that!
March 26th, 2006 at 8:42 am
Jon, I realize from time to time that I am spoiled living in the SF bay area, where there is such a large gay community that it’s much more accepted. This kind of thing horrifies me, but it is so good to know that there are people like you out there to help point out the people that are making a stand. Just wanted to say thanks for that.
March 26th, 2006 at 9:19 am
What defines a person is their capability for love, not the object of their love.
March 26th, 2006 at 10:11 am
Sort of off topic, but I can’t resist… I never quite understood this concept of “Saving the homosexuals and other sinners”. What are homosexuals being saved from? Hell? Let’s say for a second that Hell is a real concept, why do YOU care if I’M going to hell? Can’t people just be happy with their religion and their reserved place in heaven? Why would you care where I end up? I never understood this desire to convert those who have different beliefs. What if a homosexual group went out on missions and tried to convert religious people into being gay? Is that why the group with the billboard above is so upset? Do they actually think that if someone reads this sign, they’re going to suddenly be gay?
I guess it’d be different if people really began to understand that being gay isn’t something someone chooses, while I am sure that does occasionally happen, it’s not the norm. People are born gay, just as people are born straight. It’s not a sickness that needs to be cured.
People aren’t born religious. People aren’t born knowing what GOD is. God is taught. Heaven is taught. Hell is taught. The concept of right and wrong is taught. Attraction is not taught. Love is not taught. Pleasure is not taught. Pain is not taught.
What if I told a religious person that religion was a sickness, that loving God was a sickness and they needed to be cured?
March 26th, 2006 at 10:30 am
Mihow, when the movie Philadelphia first came out my aunt freaked out that her daughter and I went to see it. She was (and I’m not kidding) concerned that we would get “gay ideas”.
Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s a big stretch to think that people who say they want to “save homosexuals” might actually believe that there’s some kind of recruitment going on.
March 26th, 2006 at 10:54 am
Well, I guess when your life is filled with recruitment and brainwashing* other people, it really isn’t much of a surprise that you might believe a person can be convinced into a life of Gay.
*Forgive me, Father. For I have sinned.
March 26th, 2006 at 10:57 am
Actually, that was a shitty comment. Sorry. It probably should be deleted.
March 26th, 2006 at 11:03 am
Right on, Justin, and right on, blurb!!!! I totally agree and support both of you!
It always reinforces my bias against organized religion when they show their intolerance like this while preaching “love thy neighbor” at the same time.
March 26th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Re your two cents which any rational person would agree with, all the homophobes have to do is picture someone trying to “unstraighten” them. Would it work? NO! Homosexuality is hard-wiring…just as heterosexuality is.
March 26th, 2006 at 2:57 pm
“Stupid? Unhappy?”
March 26th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
Excellent post, as always. I’m a Catholic, and I completely take your stand on homosexuals; I disagree with the church on this issue. (There are a LOT of things I disagree with Catholicism on, but that’s another time and place.)
I believe that if God tells us to “love one another as thyself”, it doesn’t come with exceptions. It’s not, “love your neighbor as yourself, EXCEPT WHEN…”
Homosexuals are PEOPLE, not some strange creatures that we should be against and try to “change”. As someone with many gay friends, I know how they feel about these billboards being put up around the area. There are several in the St. Louis area with the message, “Change is possible” on them, and I can’t imagine how I would feel driving by that if I were in their shoes. The billboards anger me enough, and I’m a heterosexual.
Thanks to Blurb for sharing his open mindedness with everyone, and for being willing to put his point of view out there for all to see, agree or disagree with him.
March 26th, 2006 at 9:27 pm
These billboards make me want to vomit. My husband and I passed one today and started talking about it. So much hate in the world.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:05 am
Thank you, Stacyb - sometimes I feel like the only other Christian on the internet who could care less who is sleeping with whom. All those people who use the Bible to justify hatred, intolerance and bigotry make me want to scream with frustration. I think God probably doesn’t care who you get in bed with as long as there is love in the relationship.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:54 am
Jon I have to say that I love your blog. You bring me hope that all straight people who live in Utah aren’t all complete idiots. Leta is lucky to have you as her father. oh and I couldn’t log onto Exodus.com to see what these morons are talking about(Damn you work internet filter!!!)Cheers… ROD
March 27th, 2006 at 9:08 am
Reminds me of Love in Action, a group with a similar goal (www.loveinaction.org, if you feel like vomiting). I heard a great piece on NPR’s On Point with Tom Ashbrook late last year, and it was incredibly enlightening, and really made the group look stupid. This poor woman who had “un-lesbianed” herself went on the show with the intention of defending the group and her personal choice to deny her sexual orientation but instead, she accidentally illustrated to the world exactly how unhappy she was with her forced life choice. It was so sad, but so enlightening, I think, for everyone to see exactly how harmful these groups are to all of us, but mostly to those who buy into them.
March 27th, 2006 at 10:38 am
“We think the cross to bear is not for those who are gay, but those who believe in crosses in the first place.”
bravo! i’m going to remember that line.
March 27th, 2006 at 10:45 am
Blurb,
Thank you agian for showing us all just why you are so awesome! I saw the original billboard and I was so upset by it and also upset because I did not have anyway to strike back. If only I had been so creative. I love the response billboard. Thanks agian!
Angela
March 27th, 2006 at 11:40 am
(puts hands together in applause) Well said Jon, couldn’t have put it better myself.
I’m an atheist and don’t believe in any god/deity/whatever, but if there is one then I firmly believe they wouldn’t want churches spreading all this hate. Why are they so hung up on trying to ‘fix’ what they see as ‘wrong’?? Can’t they channel that energy into helping the homeless and starving, people who need help?
March 27th, 2006 at 11:53 am
“ignorant? unhappy?”
“prejudice? unhappy?”
“selfrightous? unhappy?”
Yes, they are….why do people spend their lives, time and energy trying to make other people feel worthless and unloved by THEIR God. Who is this God? If their God is the right God than you can count me out, besides I am pretty sure they are confusing the message. In the Bible it makes reference to two sinners who were commiting the sin of “sodomy” but in real interpretation sodomy is anything other than the missinary possition…I think we are all sinners and if we aren’t,well, than we have better work on our sex skills!
March 27th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Amen, John. We have a friend that was “degayed” and now is getting married, my heart cringes for the both of them. Does “we” at blurbomat 2 cents mean you and Chuck? I wish “we” were all loving thy neighbor as thy self.
March 27th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
Oh. My. Word. Where were these billboards?
I need to move somewhere a bit more interesting than Dallas.
March 27th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Jes, you can move to Southwest Florida and not only see billboards like that, but a slew of terrifying anti-abortion billboards that scream, “ABORTION: the real weapon of mass destruction!”
Sigh.
March 27th, 2006 at 8:02 pm
That is a very clever response to a very homophobic view. After reading the bible last year in a more scholarly way,I am pagan, I realized Jesus would have totally not cared about gay people marrying gay people…I pity the Christians who don’t know that.
Also that guy lives in my city!! yeah there’s something in the air up here I tell you.
March 27th, 2006 at 10:59 pm
Well, I’ve been reading your blog for a couple of months and many times have been compelled by what you’ve had to say.
After reading this entry, I had to comment but also needed to put my thoughts in order and really think this one over and put my thoughts together. This type of ignorance, prejudice, and bigotry angers me so much.
I grew up with my mom and step-father and when I was 15 years old, I tracked my birth father down. Before meeting him, I met his mother and the very first thing she said to me was “the first thing I want you to know is that he’s gay, in the event that this would make you not want to meet him.”
It absolutely floored me that she thought that his homosexuality would make me not want to know my father. Because of the way she phrased this, making it seem like she was protecting her son and his emotions, I assumed that she was accepting of his lifestyle.
The truth was that my fathers orientation was such an issue with his family that he was in his early 30’s before he came out and to avoid as much confrontation and judgement as possible, he had moved 3,000 miles away.
His christian family claims to be open and accepting of his orientation, but theres always the back handed comments about how the fear for his soul. Although he has been “out” for close to 20 years now, I am still the only member of the family to have ever met any of the men in his life because of his familys prejudice and judgement. To this day, he’s still ashamed when one of his nieces or nephews learns of his orientation.
He and I now have a great relationship and he regularly harasses me to provide him with grandchildren and I know that he will be an amazing grandfather. I certainly hope that whenever that does happen that he is secure in knowing that any children I have will be raised to not have these kinds of biggoted views and that he is never the least bit ashamed of who is he with his grandchild(ren).
March 28th, 2006 at 6:03 pm
I was raised Catholic, and the God I know isn’t the wrathful, angry god that the bible thumpers seem to believe in - the God I know is loving and all-accepting of all His/Her children. Groups like Exodus scare me - they can do so much harm. Why can’t the homophobes see that love between two people is a good thing? When I see stories like this, I always remember that this great nation was founded by Puritans. I truly believe there is a good deal of Puritism still alive in many folks.
My partner and I are a few of the lucky ones - both of our families accept and love us both. A cute story - my mother-in-law/won’t/let/us/marry was from the old school - very involved in the Church, very devout. When my partner came out to her and explained that she was in love with a woman, MIL said, “yes, OK, dear, but is she Catholic?” Thank goodness we were able to reply “yes!”
March 29th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
I hurt so much for those kids (like Sam) who picked up the subtle (and not so subtle) messages of hate from society, and who felt ethnic friends, or being in touch with their sexual identity, or not measuring up in the eyes of some ego defined “God” that is always watching…these cultural behaviors translate to mean: predjudice, bigotry, selfishness, egocentric conformity, self doubt, shame and paranoia that someone else may be free of the chains in which their psyches exist.
What kind of sad individuals prefer that world?
How many adults we all encounter in non-intimate ways such as business or schooling, incommerce, etc, are living in their own hell of denial and perpetrating it against others because it is their judgement mindset; they apply it in their own esteem of themselves, and therefore justify outrageous acts of discrimination and hate/ fear based judgement of others, meantime they hate the mirror as well and use their religious dogma as a shield against anyone seeing their true pathetic nature.
Look at them folks….they are all around us, gritting their teeth, clenching their ass, shaking their fists at the lives others lead. Honestly, we need to feel compassion for the haters of the world, whatever we suffered on our way to self awareness, at least we evolved. Shit, we could be THEM. Gotta say from experience, gay is waaaay better than crazy:)
Thanks Jon, you give good Blog.
Jess
March 30th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
First, I am going to say what I am NOT saying. I am NOT saying that the above billboard is in good taste. I am making no statement about my own personal beliefs in regard to homosexuality. I just happen to be in a position to be in a context where I have access to inside information into Exodus and same sex attraction/ homosexuality as it is viewed from the Christian world. The information I am about to share is not my opinion. It’s just information. I have my own thoughts on it, and hopefully will soon post them on my own blog, but I’m in grad school, so I’m a little busy these days.
Exodus International is a Christian ministry that wants to provide therapy for those Christians who do believe that homosexual behavior is sinful, or against their beliefs. Based on my information, this organization holds strongly to the belief that if someone does hold to a belief system that leads them to believe that homosexuality is wrong, then that person should have the right to access services that are in accordance with those beliefs.
Exodus does not claim to be able to guarantee change the sexual orientation of anyone, and roughly 30% of those who willingly, by choice seek to change their orientation do so successfully and are satisfied with their choice. Another 30% no longer have attraction to the same sex but do not develop attraction for the opposite sex. Roughly 30% more experience no change in attraction/sexual orientation.
I quote no source because there will be a book based on a study of Exodus International that should be released within the next year. Because of where I am in school and what not, I’ve had some access to some information in my courses. It will be controversial, just as all of our posts here have been.
Okay, take that information and run with it. It just seemed relevant to our little discussion here. Giving my opinions would take forever and hijack Jon’s blog…so I won’t.
Like I said, hopefully soon in my own little corner of the blogosphere.
March 30th, 2006 at 11:33 pm
I think I have a pretty good idea what your “take” on homosexuality might be. I may be wrong and I apologize in advance if I shoot wide of the mark.
I have a suspicion that your background is Christian and your career interest is Psychology. I’m going to guess that you want to use a Christian approach to therapy. Therefore in keeping with your Christian values you’re going to approach the issue of homosexuality as a Behavioral Disorder. A mental illness. One that can be treated and cured with proper therapy. I’m not going to insult you by saying you’re going into the field of Reparative Therapy. I have been a recipient of said therapy and I’m here to say it doesn’t work.
I also would like to point out that your Exodus information has the faint odor of spam. You may not agree with their approach but you share their ideology that homosexuality can be cured.
I wouldn’t bother going into the gay gene argument and the difference between inherited and heritable traits. That has been masticated thoroughly. The claim that behavioral traits cannot be inherited is slowly eroding away to new discoveries in gene research that behavioral traits can be inherited.
Also heritable traits do not explain homosexual behavior in other species. Species that are nowhere near as complex as homo sapien sapien. You cannot blame a domineering mother or defensive detachment on gay behavior in sheep or geese. The idea is ludicrous.
If homosexuality were strictly a behaviorial disorder then it should parallel other behavioral disorders as far as population distribution and treatment success rates. Which it doesn’t. It’s not even close.
Maybe we should pay more attention to bigotry and intolerance rather than trying to find a cure for us poor homosexuals.
March 30th, 2006 at 11:47 pm
addendum: I also wanted to point out that your Exodus statistics are inflated and wildly distorted. But don’t take my word for it, you can read it here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1183596,00.html
March 31st, 2006 at 7:26 am
Well, either because you’re clever, or you did a little looking around, you’re right that I’m in psych and that I’m a Christian. However, you are making broad assumptions about my personal beliefs, my practice as a professional, and my philosophy. And they are wrong ;), and I hope I can bore that out. I tend to stick around. I don’t comment and run over the long haul. And that’s why I didn’t want to come out say that forthright, because I do feel that in certain forums people will make assumptions just because I claim a certain faith and field of study.
More later…I’m late for staff meeting.
March 31st, 2006 at 8:24 am
Goingape - Thanks for the kudos. I try to be an honest person so when I say I was guessing I was being truthful. I have sat in many a christian therapist office trying to overcome my same sex attraction not to recogize the spin.
Like I said earlier if I missed the mark then I apologize. I would however like to see a summary of your beliefs on homosexuality. Don’t worry, I’m not trying to trap you or anything. I happen to be a (marginal) Christian myself. I’m just curious to know what your view is on homosexuality.
March 31st, 2006 at 8:47 am
Apeman, just spit it out, we’re aaallll busy. Say whats on your mind or, here’s an idea, wait until you have time to complete a thought. It’s not polite or cohesive to break into a conversation, drop an F bomb, then run to the wet bar for a refill on your white wine spritzer. The beauty of this format is that social awkwardness can be disguised by thinking while you compose your post, and then revising until its what you wanted to say, and then p-o-s-t-i-n-g at the appropriate time
chi-ching!
April 3rd, 2006 at 9:09 pm
Jezzie, sorry that I can’t operate on your time table. Somehow my profs don’t accept “blogging” as an excuse for not having my dissertation completed. Oh well.
Otherwise, I hope that ya’ll will still have me around here even though my beliefs are different. But politically I think you’ll find we’re not much different. I’ve posted a very bad post about my thoughts on homosexuality. It was the best I could come up with after a full day of classes. blegh.