(This is a rhetorical argument to make a point, people. Don’t get too worked up about it.)

For more info about this lobbying effort to ban Mormon Temple marriage (and to find your reps’ email address), go to http://tinyurl.com/ru4cl

This is it, in a nutshell, really.

We’re listening in when you talk to your great aunt Nora in Ireland, we’re completely f’ing up the education system, that cow your eating, it’s diet consist of other bits of dead cow, when you vote, sorry, but there’ll be no paper trail, thousands of young men and women are dying in a foreign country… but hey don’t pay attention to that… Leslie and Lisa want to get married…. now that’s just wrong……

The fact that the government can’t do anything in regards to Darfur, but can get the right wing constituency all riled up about man on man love is just …. sick.

I can’t understand why being gay has to be a religious issue anyway. The whole adam and eve argument is so tired and embarassingly empty of meaning. And even if we did all promise Heavenly Father in the pre-existence to come to earth and have a family, I’m still not seeing the problem. Gay people can have families too through adoption and insemination — methods many straight couples have to employ as well.

What it always boils down to is fear and us/the familiar versus them/”the other”. And Mormons will always have much to fear until they are able to soften and loosen some of their exclusive and limiting beliefs. Which makes me sad, because they are such good people.

When speaking historically about marriage, people seem to forget that women used to be only one step above cattle and goats in a business deal negotiated by men. We have only recently moved on from this kind of practice in our culture and it is still happening throughout the world.

I don’t see anyone waxing nostalgic for that definition of “traditional marriage”.

great post!

I would love to marry my same-sex spouse of over 7 years. Hopefully “you-all” are voting. I think while you may not be against it, it’s really not so important to you that you are voting.

I think that the majority of us realize that this is just Bush’s ploy to distract. But WHY is it a distraction? Why does this one topic bring up enough emotion to change the face of politics as we see it.

An article that I read not too long ago was showing that Bush’s approval rating in Utah was the highest in the country. Why? Because the people there “trust” him and “believe in faith in God”. Horse-pookey. Bush knows that heís got folks in Utah by the balls and it just goes to show that people are more gullible than you think.

People, I’ve said it once and I will say it again. It’s not in the “eyes of the Lord” that I care my partner and I are married — it’s the fact that if something happens to me, *HE* can make choices that concern my well-being.

The general public, just like organized religion, is in many counts stupid and can not think for themselves. You have to be told what to think. A person that stands his ground, speaks to the world, and shows confidence that I’m right because some higher being told me so is going to insight followers. God forbid someone to look at what’s going on. They are told to believe “this is WRONG, donít do it cause God will punish you” — that your “marriage” will be completely wrecked and worthless if you let gay marriage proceed. I beg to differ. A 50% divorce rate in this county (many of which come from those same folks that scream sanctity of marriage) does not fuel a healthy life style. If you get a divorce, in my opinion, you made a bad choice in partner. Things happen, yes, but how does getting a divorce not lessen the “sanctity of marriage”? Apparently, since God makes all the laws concerning what happens in the country, us non-believing homoís are just screwed every which way we turn.

The ammendment of the beast!

But I was in church last week, and I didn’t hear any letter about gay marriage. Not in Oregon, anyway. Perhaps the church has given up on us as a lost cause.