Clinton, McCain & New Hampshire
January 8th, 2008Clinton and McCain the comeback kids - CNN.com
Wow. After all the talk, to see both of these candidates take New Hampshire is pretty amazing. I think a lot of people had written Hillary off after Iowa, which didn’t seem that big a surprise to me given conservatives hatred of the Clintons.
This is shaping up to be one of the most interesting presidential elections of my adult life. With an woman and African American running, both who have a chance to be the next president, it’s about time the U.S. got over itself. o
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January 9th, 2008 at 12:26 am
McCain as Maverick WIld Man does very well in NH, where a zillion people are Independents. I think he fades in a general and won’t win the nomination. His pro-Iraq war stance should see to that, IMHO.
Personally, as a commie, bleeding heart Democrat, I think it might be time for Edwards to bow out. Either that, or die on Super Tuesday. And if he does that, I bet most of his supporters would break for Obama. I love HIllary, but she’s far too polarizing for me.
And like I said tonight, “Will somebody please wake up Fred Thompson and tell him he came in 6th in the New Hampshire primary?”
My prediction: Obama vs. Huckabee in the general and Obama wins. Handily.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:23 am
“Amen” to your thoughts. The most inspiring politics I’ve seen in my adult life and I’m almost 50 years old!
January 9th, 2008 at 5:33 am
(As I’m sure you know) it’s the first time in 50 years an incumbent president or vp hasn’t been running (THANK GOD we’ll be rid of them soon). It is exciting…the first time I’ve heard so much talk and debate about an election.
Obama v Huckabee sounds like a breath of fresh air!!!
January 9th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Change, change, change. Yaaaa Hoooo. Such a wonderful morning!
January 9th, 2008 at 7:10 am
I agree, especially about the U.S. getting over itself.
I really wish that campaigns were significantly shorter and that we didn’t get this second-by-second analysis of said campaigns. Please do provide as much data as possible but don’t spin it or interpret it for me. I should be smart and responsible enough to sort through it myself. I would hate to think I made any political decision because Chris Matthews (to pick a random reporter/pundit type) told me how to think.
Nevertheless, I’m also excited to see what unfolds.
January 9th, 2008 at 9:10 am
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January 9th, 2008 at 9:19 am
here here.
January 9th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Wahoo! I’m so excited that this is the first election in which I’m eligble (read: old enough) to vote.
I hope Elisa was being sarcastic about you getting over yourself. Hm. In regards to the US getting over itself, you may find this interesting:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/opinion/08steinem.html?em&ex=1200027600&en=5b91a543afd99fcb&ei=5087%0A
It starts out as a usual Steinem diatribe on sexism but turns out to be much more worthwhile, I promise. In any case, the getting over is LONG overdue.
January 9th, 2008 at 9:51 am
While I do believe we are on the cusp of something big with either Hillary or Obama becoming president, I’m wary of dynastic politics. Either Clinton or a Bush being in office over the past 20 years can’t be a good thing. Period. I wonder how much of our nation’s halcyon days under Slick Willie were a result of dumb luck and carefully concealed (or actively ignored) corruption.
We need something really, truly different to get us on the right track, and we need it yesterday. Regardless, we’re in deep doo-doo if another WMA makes it into office…
January 9th, 2008 at 11:00 am
@Tom, so who did you vote for in 2000 and 2004??
January 9th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I agree Hillary is too polarizing. Did anyone else catch how she played nice with the Iowans until she didn’t win, then she seemed to actually attack them? They’re entitled to their own opinion, even if it’s not hers. Sorry, I’ve just noticed that she does that too often, so I’ve lost any ability to believe what she says. And, yes, I realize other politicians do the same, but I guess it’s the delivery from her. So I digres…
But, what I’m getting at-I think Obama v. Huckabee would be great, too. Do either have any major ties to the established bigwigs of their respective parties? I would be nice to see a cabinet of people who are not recycled from the past.
January 9th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
ugh! the typos!
January 9th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I am actually excited about voting in this election.
January 9th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I agree with how exciting this election is. It’s awesome to have fresh faces and close races on both sides. (I did not mean to rhyme that but now I kind of like it). I kind of have an issue with terms like “an african american might win!” or “a woman might win!” Ok, Obama is black, but that’s not why I like him. And yeah, Clinton is female, but who cares? If we truly want to move into the future we need to stop harping on this kind of stuff and just pick the best leader for our country, regardless of race or gender.
That said, I know that’s an overly idealistic hope, but I don’t care!
January 9th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
yes- the tide is turning
so freaking exciting
these times will be written in the books our children will read
I love this year
January 9th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I agree, this presidential campaign will prove to be an interesting one. I’m curious to see how far they actually get. It’s one I’m keeping my eye on.
January 9th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I’ve voted for Bush twice. I think history will judge him well. I go to Mass every Sunday and pray daily.
If Huckabee is nominated, I hope he loses in a landslide. If the race close, I’m voting Democrat, then looking at homes in New Zealand.
The man is publicly avowed creationist. God _could _ make the world in seven days, but why would He try so hard to fool us? The only point would be to require unreasoned faith in a tradition and deliberate ignorance of the evidence of our eyes. (Said eyes, by the way, made by God Himself.) That contradicts all God’s revelation of His truth, His fervent desire to communicate with us, and His consistent view of the frailty of human authority.
And, it sets up an unreasoned faith in human institutions, which American politics identifies as positively dangerous.
If a national electoral majority can ratify that view of reason and authority, then we’re in serious trouble.
January 9th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I LOVE Obama. He’s so smart and so open to new ideas, and his speeches actually make me tear up with emotion. And to have a black man as president of the US would be stellar!
I like Hillary, but I, too, think she’s too polarizing and I, too, am tired of presidential dynasties.
I was hoping that Obama would take NH, but I’m glad he was a close second. As Jon Stewart said, “It’s good to see cold, white people voting for a black man.”
January 9th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
what do people mean when they say hillary is too polarizing?
January 9th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
I’m leery dynastic politics and the polarization of Clinton and leery of Obama being all talk and no action. Obama truly is a breath of fresh air, but if elected can he get the job done? I’m not so sure. That said, I think it might be time to give the man a shot. Obama/Richardson might be a good ticket. No whities in the the White House!
January 9th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
It’s refreshing to think someone who admits he drank too much beer in high school/college (like me) is also smart enough to be president (unlike me).
I like Hillary but I could have gone to high school with Barack. And it’s about time someone my age ran this country.
January 9th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Obama’s “dynamic” speaking style is reminiscent of any self-help seminar. Additionally, I resent Oprah and Iowa telling me who I will be voting for this November. New Hampshire got it right. Keep it going.
If Obama eventually wins the nomination, fine. But it would be nice to hear something from him other than his pump you up prose.
It seems even Charlie Rose was jumping on the bandwagon. I don’t get it. And I won’t even start on Huckabee. President Huckabee?
January 10th, 2008 at 12:31 am
I must admit, Obama is a great speaker no doubt about that.
But I think it shields his majority left-leaning positions on real issues because it’s easy to get caught up on his performance.
I want a true moderate, an independent. Somebody truly in the middle that is willing to compromise and above all - isn’t a democrat or republican.
Where’s my man/woman in the center, that isn’t bought by labor unions or corporate lobbyist and maybe agree with at least 50%, that will really unite this country?
I don’t see that today.
January 10th, 2008 at 4:06 am
I’m excited about this election and I’m in Iceland. Then again, I am an Americanophile. Which isn’t in the dictionary because almost nobody is one except me. But that’ll all change when Obama gets in, oh yes.
January 10th, 2008 at 4:35 am
to Nancy - Hillary’s a person people either love or hate - there don’t seem to be many people who have a neutral opinion of her.
(Definition - polarize - cause to concentrate about two conflicting or contrasting positions)
January 11th, 2008 at 4:24 am
This has by far been the most exciting election I’ve witnessed. Granted, since I’m Norwegian and sometimes a bit absent-minded, I haven’t always been that attentive of the primary elections in the US of A, but now I feel like popping some popcorn and cheer loudly for the good guys
January 11th, 2008 at 10:29 am
@blurb: Sorry to respond so late. Re: your question: not Bush, that’s for damn sure. Was forced to go with the lesser of two evils.
I was about to write a long diatribe about what’s wrong with the system, but we’ll be here for hours… In short, the system is f’ed, and politicians can’t be trusted. My personal solution is to try to have the right kind of interactions in my corner of the Earth and hope it affects change in people. In the meantime, I, with my Libertarian ideals, will insist on keeping my arsenal in the event that I might need to protect myself from ever-encroaching dregs of society, the government itself, and/or a zombie invasion, and keeping “the man” out of my business.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
i am VERY excited to vote in this election. watching Obama’s victory speech in Iowa gave me goosebumps..it was that good and awe-inspiring. I couldn’t even watch the results from NH…it was too stressful.