This editorial is necessarily a direct response to what you asked me to show regarding Obama, but it really hit home with me as I drank my coffee this morning.

As you said that article couldn’t have said it better on why you will vote for Obama, this one perfectly states why I won’t. Just something for you to mull over.

Thanks

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTg0M2RjYjRlMGU0MTRjNWUxZTkwODQ1NWE3OTc2Yjg=

I appreciate your graciousness. Truly, I try and not be silly or unreasonable when I comment here. I do, like you I’d guess, get rather emotional about my views at times. However, I wouldn’t bother posting anything here if I didn’t feel compelled to try and show another view or that you were not a fair or reasonable enough of a person to hear another view. It’s the former journalist in me that provokes me, lol…has to be because otherwise I’d just keep to myself.

So, after having written a huge response, that I accidentally deleted due to exhaustion, I will take your challenge. Bear with me, because I want to be thoughtful in my response, so it might be a couple of days. I don’t want to cite things that you could deem just sensationalistic or whatever. It’s not like I’m trying to change your vote. It’s more like when a lawyer is trying to put the question of reasonable doubt into a juror’s head. I have my own qualms about McCain…hell about all of them. I’m ashamed about our government…our country right now. It’s like when your kid acts like a dolt in public…and you know they can be so much more than that silly acting ass that has no regard for anyone else. Ya know? We are capable of more as a country. Now whether McCain, Obama or someone yet unnamed, lol, can bring that out in us…I simply don’t know. None of us do really. If we did have any way of telling I would guess we would be in better shape right now, dontcha think?

Just so you know, as a former Democrat, my main beef with the party is that it has become too far left, mostly regarding entitlement programs etc. I’ve got my own reasons for this, which I just wrote about at length but am far too tired now to retype.

I decided to vote Republican…become Republican this year…because I didn’t have any other choice, LOL (I’m asking Santa for a third party this Christmas). I want less government (McCain is looking less and less like a conservative than he even did before, which is saying a whole helluva alot regarding this) and that is the party that strives for that. No, I don’t like other parts of the party’s platform. But I weighed my choices and felt that I could not, any longer, side myself with the liberal platform. If you are interested why, I’d be glad to tell you. It’s not because of any reason you might think…no anti-gay, anti-abortion, pro-gun, religious leanings. As I’ve said before, I am not any of those things. I can’t recall what I commented before about myself, but let’s just say I’m very socially liberal. I may have written this before (but I always tell it because it is the true benchmark for how liberal my friends and family say I am, LOL)… My “maid of honor” was a gay man, and my husband’s best man was gay. And we were married by the best man’s Baptist minister father in a church (I’m an atheist). If that alone doesn’t make me a poster child for the Democratic party, then I don’t know what would, ha,ha. I’m also pro-choice, hate guns, and was an environmentalist for years. I know, totally confusing. Considering those points, my lifelong liberal friends go, “Ok, then you must have a GOOD reason for making this change…what is it?” Which is what I consider you to be asking me in a way now. So, since you were kind enough to ask, I will answer you in a respectful way.

If I didn’t respect you and Heather as much as I do, I wouldn’t even bother arguing these things. But I do. I think you two are alot like me and my husband. Well, but for the fact that he is a life long conservative and has converted me after 18 years, LOL.

So, as a peace offering for any malcontent I might have given you in my previous comments, LOL…here’s a few music things you might like. Knowing how well versed you are on music I doubt I’m cluing you in on anything new. But nonetheless…

Btw, I’d be curious if you guys like the Avett Brothers. I just went to one of their shows and it was one of the best I’ve ever been to.

http://www.myspace.com/blitzentrapper

(all the songs in the sample player are good. I LOVE “Furr” and “Texaco” reminds me alot of T Rex).

http://www.myspace.com/horsefeathersmusic

My fav is “Curs in the Weeds”

http://www.myspace.com/jolieholland

“Mexico City” is amazing

http://www.myspace.com/twosheds

“You”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIF-WriKWjY

Ok, I must turn in…six year old gets her first eye exam with dilation tomorrow because she’s diabetic. Should be tons o fun

1) “he’s been caught lying numerous times, or skirting the truth about his associations and his record and all kinds of other stuff”

Prove it. I know you are angry because it appears that Obama is going to win this election. Believe me, I’ve been angry, too these past eight years. I understand where that comes from. But just saying a person is bad isn’t enough. I’ve tried to provide links (sure, even partisan ones) to back up my claims. I can’t say the same for conservatives who have left comments here.

Have there been misstatements in debates and ads? Oh hell yes. FROM BOTH SIDES. But of the two people we have to chose from, Obama is far better than McCain.

2) “There are years of articles written about this man and who he’s aligned himself with…all Islamic extremist sympathizers or anti-semitic or anti-American.”

Prove it. Three links. From any reputable (I’d even accept links to FoxNews or other Rupert Murdoch properties) source

3) “If Obama wasn’t soooo extreme left on every frigin’ thing then I might tolerate him more.”

Name three to five things that demonstrate Obama is “extreme left”.

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I agree with you that firms marketing loans to people who could not afford them (and those same people signing the loans) screams lack of oversight and screams of greed.

Finally, one of the worst things that happened after 9/11 was that Bush had a chance to unite this country. He and his people (Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld) chose to divide it and start a misguided war. McCain isn’t the person to take us forward and repair the damage of the last 8 years. Obama is. I don’t think we’ll be close to the feared socialist state you mention. Part of the “rescue” package is that we own parts of these companies. I’m not 100% sold on the notion of this package or that which it claims to fix.

Thanks for all your comments.

It’s fine to support a platform. It’s fine to have your beliefs. But to give such blind allegiance to someone who hasn’t even taken office yet is plain scary. The man will turn this country socialist as everyone breathes a sigh of relief their man got into the White House. With a Democratic Congress too, where are the checks and balances. Hell, where have they been for years. But at least with two opposing sides in control, they somewhat keep the other in check.

I know many liberals love the socialist movement. Hell, they salivate over the thought. I for one do not. And I am pretty much convinced the nation I love will soon be a thing of the history books as we nationalize private business and finance, health care and raise entitlements across the board. If Obama wasn’t soooo extreme left on every frigin’ thing then I might tolerate him more. But he simply isn’t and never has been. I don’t think many of you Obama supporters realize what you’re supporting. It’s like my mama always said, be careful what you wish for.

It’s been often said, and is eerily becoming true it seems, that once this nation has more people on the doll than are working then it will collapse. I fear we are headed there. All this financial mess stems from people being “helped”. Oh, how they were helped. And look where it got us. Now not only are they being screwed, those of us who work hard and do what we are supposed to are being screwed too…and yet we help them more! Where is the incentive for anyone to do well for themselves…take responsibility for thier own action? There isn’t any because the government sweeps in and helps no matter how amazingly selfish and stupid they were. I’m sick of it. A hand out here, another there, a leg up…to where???? If being successful is evil and will be punished, then what the hell is the incentive to strive to be successful. If you know that half your income will be taken by the government if you make over a set amount, then why would you ever want to make more? Oh, I know…so everyone is equal…that’s communism. Lovely.

In terms of his coddling terrorists…look it up. There are years of articles written about this man and who he’s aligned himself with…all Islamic extremist sympathizers or anti-semitic or anti-American. Funny, in all my years, I’ve never once just happened across and hung out with casually with ANY body with those kinds of leanings. I think one would be hard pressed to say Obama didn’t keep himself away from those types…for a reason. I shudder to think what reason that might be. I know, I know…we’re all crazy…conspiracy theorists, right wing whatevers. I hope to hell we are crazy. Because if we aren’t then this nation is doomed.

I thank you very kindly for giving us (yes even those who disagree with your position as well as my own) a place to discuss even the smallest of issues pertaining to this election.

I found myself screaming at the television while falling asleep last night watching that debate! Something about hearing all that drivle irritated me right out of a cold medicine induced slumber! Wow McCain has gotten desperate!

Since the Keating 5 has to do with the economy: McCain insisted until too recently that everything was great with the economy.

Terrorism: Obama has repeatedly said he’d take out Osama Bin Laden. I can’t see that as somehow coddling terrorists. The conservatives are losing this election.

I’m not sure I’d call the Keating 5 thing desperate. I’d call it a counter jab, just to make sure that there isn’t a repeat of the Swift Boat scenario from 2004. I can’t fault the Dems for fighting back. It’s about time.

In the context of the current economic crisis, the Ayeres association is desperate. I do think it is relevant that he has been very tolerant of those who hate America and has placed some of these people in positions of influence to him.

In fairness, bringing McCain’s Keating association is desperate as well. McCain has at least expressed remorse for that association.

I refuse to vote against anyone.

From the elitist newspaper article that Sarah Palin (non-elite) quoted (out of context):

“A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called ’somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.’”

This is stupid and desperate. P.S. McCain lost last night’s debate.

Go read what I wrote. The point isn’t that Ayers is as dangerous as that, but that people like are a necessary condition for them.