Sinking In
November 7th, 2008Still basking in the afterglow of the Obama election. Still happier than I’ve been in a long time about the state of the U.S., even with the economic bad news and tough times ahead.
I felt this way in 1992 after Clinton got elected. However, I lived in Provo, Utah, and at my day job, one of my co-workers was an avid Rush Limbaugh fan, listening every day. Somewhere in mid-1993, I finally asked her to wear headphones because I couldn’t take it any more. I won’t be subjecting myself to the partisan comedians this time around.
The thing that strikes me about most of the partisan shows is that there isn’t a true dialogue. That goes for Olbermann and Maddow as much as it does for Hannity and Limbaugh and Beck and Savage and O’Reilly. Sitting around getting angry isn’t a dialogue. It’s an emotional crack hit.
This cycle, I had hoped to have more people than the handful who disagree with my views in the comments. To the few of you who don’t agree but still chose to participate, I thank you. We’ve got a long way to go to until we can have true, civil yet dissenting political discourse in the United States. The partisan shows aren’t going to help.
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It’s interesting to see what kind of garbage is still being regurgitated by the “we don’t have to be introspective ever” GOP. E.g.,
1) “conservatives have to take back the party“;
2) GOP appears to eat its own (after introducing her to the national stage, they are now throwing Palin under the bus):
I don’t feel sorry for them or her. The very people who selected, introduced and cheered Palin are now saying that it’s her fault McCain lost the election. Right. Thank GOD for BIll O’Reilly and his no spin zone. Wait.
At some point, the hypocrisy will be replaced with pragmatism, right?
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Finally, The one heartening map I’ve seen is this one from the New York Times that shows how counties shifted more Democratic this cycle:
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If I were a GOP strategist, I’d be taking a hard look at this map and an even harder look at how to move forward. I don’t think being more extremist and more fundamentalist is going to do it, just as it won’t play if the Obama administration takes it too far the other way. Time will tell. o
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Alan T,
Clinton was a very popular governor here in Arkansas his second term and Arkansans were so proud to have a native son running for President that they turned out in droves to vote for him both times he ran. And we consistently elect moderate Democrats as governors and Senators –although Huckabee _did_ slip in there for two terms. ; )
But be there no mistake, Arkansas is a very conservative state and many people here can be influenced by the RNC spin machine.
But we do have our independent streaks. We kept re-electing Fulbright to the Senate even after he was the first Senator to oppose the Vietnam War. And there has been a huge influx of Hispanics into the northwest corner of the state which used to be a very strong conservative area and now is pale blue in the New York Times “The New Blue America” map. I’m hoping we turn purple in 2012.
I don’t put Olbermann & Maddow in the same category as O’Reilly, Hannity and Limbaugh. Yes, Keith and Rachel were mad, but I was mad for 8 years and I think it was warranted!
I still think a lot of the press lean over backwards to be fair, and end up being too easy on the republicans. Years of the right screaming ‘Liberal media’ has apparently worked to muzzle many of them…
What kind of world is this now? Help the animals but screw the people. (Prop 2, OK Prop 8 not so much…..) which means this article shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody. http://tinyurl.com/6f5ks9
Even the LA times (http://tinyurl.com/6nh5uz) picked up on this a few weeks ago.
I couldn’t agree with you more regarding the angry talking heads. It’s just bad karma that doesn’t help anybody. Not to mention, what kind of life do you have when you’ve made a career out of bitching?
I ran across an article that, I think, compliments your sentiment. It’s specifically about a couple Milwaukee area anger-mongers, but I suspect their techniques are not unique…
http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/currentIssue/full_feature_story.asp?NewMessageID=24046&pf=yes
P.S. Congrats on the upcoming addition to your family!